The Little Man Who Wasn’t There!!
Last night I saw upon the stair
A little man who wasn’t there
He wasn’t there again today
Oh, how I wish he’d go away
- "Antigonish" (1899) Hughes Mearns
By Joe E. Sheldon
As I recalled this little poem the other night it set me to wondering if we in America might have a “Little Man Who Wasn’t There” in the person of a man in the Oval Office who has never shown himself to be eligible to hold that office. I saw the April 27, 2011 birth certificate posted on the White House website and wondered what it might show if it were real so I decided to find out. For starters, let’s pretend that the document posted on the WH site April 27, 2011 (hereafter WHBC) is on the up and up as the man now occupying the Oval Office pretends. Let’s also pretend that the missing birth vitals (height, weight, etc.) attested to by the physician who in fact delivered the infant are not required to show an actual birth (which of course is nonsense) and/or that any adoption or other information is of no interest - even though there is ample evidence that the individual WAS adopted in Indonesia. We’ll also ignore all of the gross and obvious signs of forgery ... we’re pretending it’s honest, ok???
What, then, does the WHBC REALLY show??? Let’s stick only to facts already known and point to definitive sources in analyzing the document. Note that we are not commenting on whether the WHBC is real or forged but merely stipulating for the purpose of this analysis that IF it is real then what does it actually tell us???1
Q. First of all why does it mostly have the same information as the 3 or 4 differing COLBs put up on the web back in 2008/9?? A good example of something like this is an item that even though incorrect and most probably indicating fraud would be the use of “African” for race rather that the term “negro” specified in the controlling definitive document, the 1961 Vital Statistics of the United States - Natality [See page 231] (hereafter called VSUS since it was under the auspices of the National Vital Statistics Division). The VSUS rigorously controls most aspects of birth certificates and the birth recording process in the US for 1961. A. It actually HAD to closely match and track the first fraudulent COLBs since to suddenly differ much at all would be an open admission that they were, indeed, committing felonious criminal document fraud in the earlier time frame. Hoist on their own petard as it were.
Q. Who determines and controls the assignment of birth certificate numbers? A. According to both Jerome Corsi in his April 28, 2011 blog on the matter and the VSUS document, only the main DOH office in the city of Honolulu does that. Corsi states the DOH Main office actually stamps the number on the certificates and he believes that numbering is done when the certificate is returned to the DOH Main office after being completed. The controlling VSUS document says that as well but also states " With few exceptions, records are numbered in the State offices of vital statistics as they are received from the local offices ..." and "... Furthermore, because the records are almost always in geographic order before numbering ..." [See page 232] and since there is only the single Main DOH office in the state, we can be assured that the numbering is as specified. This means that the Kapiolani registrations with the Nordyke Twins (10637 & 10638) were received and numbered in a different manner from the registration of the one numbered 10641. This seems a clear indicator that 10641 certificate was one of the remote office registrations (an administrative registration) used by the Dunhams and was not an in-hospital live birth (since it would then have gone with the Nordyke certificates to the Main DOH for numbering). An excellent discussion of this by Dan Crosby (who was in HI 2 months working on the material) is here and it also has a good discussion of the sequencing of the “announcement” ads for both families. The 10641 certificate also agrees with the information others have unearthed about the mother and father not living together since the VSUS document says that the street address to be used is the one that is the mother’s usual residence at the time of birth [See page 235]. There’s no requirement for the father’s address here or in the newspaper announcement of the birth (where by custom “Mr. & Mrs.” was used). So nothing here proves the couple lived together ... or even that they were married as no marriage license has ever been unearthed.
Q. Why does BC number (61 10641) have a doctor signing the block which states the child was “born alive” at the date and time indicated. A. See just above and both of the girls’ BC numbers (61 10637 and 61 10738) are in the sequence one would expect and are certified copies of actual attended birth documents with the doctor’s signature actually asserting he was the attending physician at the birth. The other document (1064) has hidden the entire section of the form entitled “For Medical and Health Use Only” which has the data blocks for height and weight and legitimacy plus is the area used for other vital record information such as adoption status, legal name changes, etc. The fact that this is not shown (in the Nordykes’ the data is not shown but is purposefully hidden) despite being required to be filled in by VSUS [See page 228; Figure 5-1] is a clear indication that the doctor is just examining an already-born infant which is allowed by HI law at the time and requires the examining physician to use the hospital where the exam was done to be the “birth location” even though no actual birth took place there. We know the birth did not happen in Kapiolani in addition due to the remote registration number indicated by the aberrant numbers when viewing 10638 & 10638. The filled-in certificates are different in nature due to the girls’ certs being attestations to actual births and the other really only stating an existing live infant was being checked - a “medical registration” vs. an “administrative registration” respectively.
Q. OK, got the picture ... the BCs are describing quite different events with the girls’ (61 10637 & 38) being real live certified in-hospital attended births and the other (61 10641) attesting to not a live birth by the attending physician but an inspection of the kid hauled into the hospital by the mother supposedly on a Monday (Aug 7) after supposedly being born on a Fri (Aug 4) presumably since no DOH Registrar doctor was available on Friday. Right?? A. Almost, but not quite. The mother filled out and signed/dated the paperwork on Aug 7, a Mon. But the doctor did the exam of the kid on Tue, Aug. 8 meaning that he surely was not the attending physician. Had the birth actually been on the 4th with the doctor in attendance almost undoubtedly he would have checked the vital signs of both mother and child, “signed off” the attendance witnessing statement with the weight, etc. in the early evening hours of that date, and then gone home. In fact HI laws even allowed that the child COULD have been born weeks or even several months earlier legally and the doctor as a registrar of the “birth” could still make the same type of attestation so it tells us nothing about the actual birth incident. Keep in mind that we also know there is NO real birth-doctor-attending birth certificate in Kapiolani as attested to by Kapiolani themselves, by several investigators, the HI governor, and the HI election official Tim Adams in addition to that same fact that Corsi’s and the Daily Pen’s investigations have shown. Those discoveries are in accord with what the out-of-order certificate numbers tell us. HI nativity laws involve some strange nomenclature such as calling an “attending” MD someone who merely examined the child rather than actually attended the birth. Aloha, y’all!!
Q. Does the WHBC show the birth to be at Kapiolani Hospital in HI as it says?? A. No. In fact it shows just the opposite - that he was NOT born there. Dr. Sinclair signing in block 19a is not attesting to his delivery of the child but rather of examining in Kapiolani Hospital a live child that is apparently reasonably healthy (though we can’t tell since that is hidden on the WHBC as mentioned above). The information on the BC such as the birth date and time, father’s name, etc. is ALL supplied by the mother (Stanley Ann Dunham Obama) as stated by her in block 18a because of the unattended, out of hospital birth. In the case of the Nordyke Twins at least some of the information on the BC would have been taken from the hospital’s admission/medical records rather than just by interviewing the mother. All of the birth information, therefore, is only as good as the word of the mother and we know this since there is no record she was ever admitted as an in-patient to the hospital as the above investigators also learned.
Q. OK - but why aren’t the BC numbers in consecutive order with Barry’s being something like 61 10633, for example, meaning a few births before the girls? A. The girls received the next available numbers from the set of numbers assigned to Kapiolani when received by the Main DOH for newborns which was following the statistical requirements of the VSUS “bible” [See page 232]. To ensure statistical accuracy the VSUS uses well-recognized and sound techniques. To prevent these vital statistics on birth being skewed by assigning BC numbers chronologically to large hospitals and not to have under-counting of “walk-in” or “remotely reported births” (which must also be counted correctly), the DOH of the state is required by the VSUS statistical methodology to assign blocks of numbers to various remote DOH offices in addition to just large hospitals so that someone walking in to one of those DOH remote offices with a newborn in tow after being recently born, perhaps, in a pineapple field (or in Kenya, say) to “register” the infant so the State of HI is aware of it and that process then requires “examination” of the recent newborn by a licensed medical doctor. This is why WHBC number is greater than that of the Nordyke girls and why it is out of sequence with them; because it was a number assigned to the particular remote office by the VSUS statistical rigor. A great explanation of this in detail can be found on the excellent writeup done by an investigator spending two months doing so.
Q. So that means he wasn’t born in Kapiolani? A. Correctamundo!! The import of this is that there was not only no Kapiolani birth but that he wasn’t even born in ANY hospital in HI since if he were he would have had the much more rigorous type of BC/attending birth physician/with the doctor certifying he delivered the infant and listing his birth metrics (height, etc.) and a BC number within the range assigned to that hospital would be used. In the case of the remote office BC number (61 10641) the infant certainly was not born on the filing cabinet in that office as he had already been registered there for a later exam. The BC number/USVS requirements tells us this was not a hospital birth. This also means that it is almost impossible the man was born in the USA since THERE IS NO RECORD OF LIVE BIRTH FROM ANY USA HOSPITAL and the registration of the child in the remote office is not a record of live birth in the USA in any respect even though HI has allowed some nonsense throughout its history. I fully expect that Jerome Corsi’s upcoming book will tell us the same story basically. There is no record of birth in the USA (period).
Q. So what can we conclude from looking at the WHBC on the Federal government’s own website and what the various politicians from the Oval Office on down (including the MSM/TV/Radio pundits) that have been swearing this image of a supposed document is “the real thing” and shows the guy to be eligible to hold the office he now occupies - being born in HI and being a US citizen and all??? A. Haven’t you been listening?? We have conclusively shown using the WNBC that the man was not only not born in the HI hospital he claims but that he was not born in ANY HI hospital but merely had his birth (with an unknown birth date that could easily have been weeks or months before the claimed date) registered so HI would know he existed and with a bit of fudging he could pretend to be an “American” and HI could obtain Federal $$$ for the kid ... your tax dollars at work. The man is not only not of HI birth as he has been claiming by birth in Kapiolani Hospital, he was almost undoubtedly born in some other country and may even have been smuggled in to HI. Keep in mind that his whole family (including the man himself) has a long track record of being a bunch of serial scofflaws. In fact, we can’t be sure of his real birth date or his name, either, which probably leads to the title “El Presidente Wetback”!
His WHBC shows (and this is setting aside the felonious criminal document fraud committed in forging the various generations of it) him to be not eligible to hold the office he now occupies but it also shows how morally and intellectually bankrupt not only his political brown-nosers are but also how brutally stupid the supposedly bright people like (you can name hundreds here) Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly, Anderson Cooper, Keith Olberman, Whoopi Goldberg, Barbara Walters, Bill Scheifer and zillions of others are; they have been completely conned, bamboozled, and defrauded by this ne’er-do-well. This really isn’t rocket science and I can only suppose they also were hoping to destroy our country just as the man himself apparently is intent on doing. Just to be aboveboard about it, all of the Congress in session when the 2008 election took place and all of the Supreme Court members have chosen to look the other way and not even think there might be a tad bit of conclusive information as to this man’s lack of eligibility to hold the office he now occupies but instead turned away! What a bunch of wimps and sycophants that, as cowards do, put their own fears and financial interests above the needs of our country!!!
What would happen were our military men and women to do that on a large scale??? In fact, almost every single one of the above are either criminally stupid, are working to help this usurper, or just never bothered to consider that anyone knew anything but they themselves - and that was to hang onto whatever they had and not rock the boat and be ridiculed!!! The ones who should be ridiculed - it will turn out - are those very ones listed above as being either criminally culpable or criminally stupid. You choose!!
In reality, the WHBC (or the several others from 2008/9) isn’t needed to show the man is ineligible which is the saddest thing of all since he told EVERYONE before the election that his father was an alien - a Brit - and that made him a Brit also at birth no matter where he was born (including even the Lincoln Bedroom). God knows what he is now, but it is certainly not an American citizen since his mother was too young to make him one and his father was an alien. He’s perhaps an Indonesian or (my bet) an illegal alien named Barry Soetoro. But the SOB is NOT an American citizen ... not even a naturalized one ... nor has he shown himself to be.
For several years now (with the willing compliance of most of the big box media types) he has been trying to make everyone believe that his eligibility is just a matter of being an American citizen and showing a BC that presents him that way. That isn’t the requisite point, but as we have shown he has failed in that even using his own WHBC. The real requirement is - and always has been - whether he meets the three Constitutional requirements and he clearly does not even with his “custom-made” WHBC.
Many people these days do not realize that some of those who have preceded us had more sense that we like to admit. For example this situation is aptly described by a gent even before we became a country:
Oh what a tangled web we weave,
When first we practise to deceive!
Sir Walter Scott, Marmion, Canto vi. Stanza 17.
Scottish author & novelist (1771 - 1832)
Getting back to more modern times, perhaps the Little Man description here from Mad Magazine is more apt:
There was a man upon the stair
When I looked back, he wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I think he's from the CIA.
In any event, it’s time to attend to seeing about the Little Man Who Wasn’t There (and his myrmidons) while we still have a country.
By Joe E. Sheldon, citizen
Photoshop Expert & Author Mara Zebest Declares Obama's Latest Hawaiian Birth Certificate A Complete Phony -Details here.
Irrefutable Proof Obama's New Birth Certificate Forged Using Nordyke Birth Certificates -Details here.
Comparative Analysis By Pro Graphics & Special Effects: Trump Vs. Obama; Birth Certificate Fraud -Details here.
Busted: White House Now Claims They Ordered Short-Form COLB From Hawaii Department Of Health In 2008 Yet COLB Is Date Stamped 2007 -Details here.
Confirmed: Democratic Party of Hawaii would not certify in 2008 that Obama was constitutionally and legally eligible for the Office of President -Details here.
Notre Dame Professor Charles Rice: Obama's eligibility could be biggest political fraud in the history of the world; time for a new approach -Details here.
Attorney Mario Apuzzo: All presidents born after 1787, except for Chester Arthur and Barack Obama, met the “natural born Citizen” criteria. -Details here.
Commander Charles Kerchner: List of U.S. Presidents - Eligibility under Article II Grandfather Clause (GFC) or Natural Born Citizen (NBC) Clause or Seated due to Election Fraud -Details here.
Jack Cashill Discusses Obama's Fraudulent Social Security Number Reserved for Connecticut Applicants -Video here.
Detailed reports on Obama's SS# can be found here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here. Visit the Birther Vault for the long list of evidence against Hawaii officials and all of the people questioning Obama's eligibility; [http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/08/video-ltc-terry-lakins-attorney-on-cnn.html].
Yes Virginia-There is a Usurper in the White House-Obama Long Form BC Forged! Wash Times NW 20110516 pg 5
58 comments:
This is too long for my meager concentration level.
The birth certificate is a forgery. Absolutely.
Via Bob Strauss on another thread:
Found this interesting comment about the number used on Obama’s forged BC.
Dr Ron Polland | April 29, 2011 at 5:28 am | Reply
Not “probably,” but DEFINITELY. I and my fellow researchers (which includes Butter) have not spilled the beans on this one just yet because Sunahara is not some random name pulled out of a list of death certificates of people born on Aug 4, 1961.
Virginia’s certification number WAS 10641 and it was swiped to put on Zero’s Photoshop birth certificate(s) – compliments of co-conspirator and inveterate liar, DOH Director Chiyome Fukino, and a member of the Sunahara family tree, which intertwines with four other prominent families, who all share a common goal.
It will get bigger mention in my e-Book which will expose the massive fraud to put Barry X on the political fast track to the White House. The first part, “A lie is born,” focuses on the birth certificate scam and the people who made the forgeries, disseminated it, and covered it up.
The perpetrators and collaborators, big and small, span every corner of this country, from Seattle to St. Petersburg and from Pennsylvania to Hawaii. You can also throw in one or two Middle Eastern countries as well because this fraudulent enterprise is, after all, a “family thing.”
The PDF put on the WH website was made by someone who wants to expose Obama. He or she set him up by creating an easy-to-prove forgery that even a 5 year old can do:
In my blog, http://fraudintheusa.blogspot.com
, I show how to do it. You simply highlight the image in the PDF, press Control-C to copy it; open a blank word document, or any image editor, and press Control-V to paste it.
What you get is a whited-out form with a partial signature of Stnaley Ann Dunham Obama – one that was copied from her forged signatures in the two divorce decrees – one for Obama Sr and the other for alias Sutoro. Even the “last-minute” insertion of “Stanley” in the signature matches the aforementioned divorce decree.
There are other clues in the PDF forgery, and I have been predicting for a long time that someone would do something like this to blow the whistle on Zero.
http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/obama-fool-us-once-fool-us-twice-dont-think-so/comment-page-1/#comment-54579
"Sunahara is not some random name pulled out of a list of death certificates of people born on Aug 4, 1961... it was swiped to put on Zero’s Photoshop birth certificate(s) – compliments of co-conspirator and inveterate liar, DOH Director Chiyome Fukino, and a member of the Sunahara family tree..."
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That's interesting in the extreme.
I do disagree with this, though:
"The PDF put on the WH website was made by someone who wants to expose Obama. He or she set him up by creating an easy-to-prove forgery that even a 5 year old can do"
Perhaps, if that person is ***shown how***, and that's the point that indicates that it was a very inside job. You see, many photoshop beginners work blissfully along, utterly unaware that they are ever creating an historical record of the work that can be accessed by anyone with access to even a copy of the finished work. The manuals are very cumbersome, not well-written and utterly not intuitive, and neither, quite frankly, is the program for all that it does.(Hence the opportunities for people like Zebeth to swoop in and make it understandable to students and intermediate users). I've said here that I believe it's quite possible that this was done by Barack and Michelle Obama themselves. I say that because
1. the modified copy was done off a copy from the ringbinder: Fukino would have been able to take it out and copy it flat - and probably would have - but Obama would not, and would have been too cautious to ask for a flat one after getting the one with the page distortions.
2. Fukino would probably have checked the dates and not mixed up time of birth in reverse order to the registration numbers.
3. Fukino would have had many birth certificates to choose from. Obama's seems to have been made from a specific one and one only.
4. No professional was involved in the forgery whatsoever, it is such a fake. Neither, really, could a decent student, because they would have known to eliminate the layers and history of the document from the final image file.
5.Fukino would have known to use the word negro for the race designation of 1961, not the hopelessly futuristic term "African" as was written. Whoever did this had no template or knowledge of the designations of the time, and was clearly sensitive to the term.
6. There is more but better to do it as an article here and not just a response post.
I am about 90% convinced that this fraud was actually manufactured on a desktop by Barack and Michelle Obama themselves or someone extraordinarily close to them, but with no skills at the task involved. It simply reeks of a job so secret and inside the walls that whoever did it did not have extensive access to the Hawaiian records, did not know photoshop to any degree and the degree to which they did know was self-taught, and could not even ask someone who was fluent with the program for tips, and photoshop is a very common program. That limits the list of suspects down to just a few, and probably two.
Think that's too crazy? Clinton picked up his own phone to call Lewinsky. Nixon probably bought and personally unwrapped and inserted the tapes to record who was in the oval office with him, punched the rec button and had placed the mic as well. Barack and Michelle were certainly capable of hovering over a computer screen together slowly learning and stitching this thing together and given the fact of the fraud, it's no more far-fetched than Clinton or Nixon. I'm very close to being completely convinced that this pathetic attempt at a forgery was done by the Obamas themselves.
Regarding #5:
They were stuck using the word "African" because that was put on the very first forged COLB posted online. Jay McKinnon from the Daily Kos later admitted making the first Obama COLB posted at DK.
@ObamaRelease YourRecords
I suspected as much, because once done, it's done. I didn't know about the Kos guy's admission, though, have a link? That's huge by itself
http://israelstreams.com/?israelinsider.html?http://israelinsider.com/Articles1/Politics/12956.htm
Thanks. I had no idea.
Trump better be preparing something about this stuff. He's the only one right now since we have no real media in this country. I've read that he knows about the SS# and natural born clause, what is he waiting for???????????
The complicit media on this issue is one of the great scandals in journalistic history.
I think Trump has been waiting for the "Obama got Bin Laden" media bump to blow over. If he doesn't say anything more this week about Obama's numerous election fraud and criminal activities with identity fraud, then something fishy is likely going on in Trumpland.
Trump is done. Soetoro finished him off with the bc. The fact that its forged doesn't matter. Soetoro has released a forged bc before. Nothing has changed. Barry is still in office and we're still fucked.
I think we have to remember that up to now the most he has said is "I hope it's real.... we need to look at it... I want to see the birth certificate." That's a big big difference from, "I have conferred with the best document examiners and graphic analysts in the business and I am now categorically prepared to accuse President Obama of fraud on a massive scale insomuch as the birth certificate he presented to the world is an absolute fake." That's like going from a threat of war to launching the first wave of missiles.
WE can say what Trump needs to say because the press isn't ready to attack in defense of their wonderful little fellow, Barry, and our Presidential aspirations do not hinge on it.
The reason Trump ran ahead of everyone is because of this issue, and we know that because the moment Obama released this fraud and Trump went silent, his numbers dropped to 5th. There is a correlation there of which he must be aware that talking about making new jobs won't reverse. He needs to address THIS issue. But if he exposes Obama, he will absolutely sail into the White House. If he doesn't, he'll never get past being a tourist.
On a side note, I feel the Globe, too, is urging him to speak out in a not-so-subtle way by putting his face on the headline and then running a sidebar inside next to the lead story. They want him to know that we're all awaiting a confrontational move by him to expose Obama.
It's likely that Trump is simply being very careful before heading into a gigantic media war that he has no choice but to engage if he really wants to be President of the United States.
It must be overwhelmingly convincing to all that we have, and continue to be, betrayed by all. We must, at this time, organize ourselves so we can at least know how many fellow Americans are with us. Also, its possible by forming a "party", the truth will spread quicker. But, most importantly, we set a time and date to rally in Washington with the thought that we stay until this is settled. I hope all see that that is the only recourse left. Ofcourse, if any of you don't see it this way, it is your time to waste and your country to lose.
Boy, the obots are positively desperate to convince us that no one will help us, all is lost and we're "fucked".
Over and over and over we read the same call to disarm here and elsewhere. This is the talking point from ACORN: pretend to be conservatives and tell them (us) that all is lost. I have that info from the inside, now.
How strategically clever. The degree to which they do not understand us is startling. They may pick up a few stragglers, but those of us who have meant business and watched the issue take root - by the millions - have gotten to the point that Barry was forced to release a forgery. Do know that momentum is on our side, and we should not confuse the anxiety of imatience with the disappointment of failure. We're winning.
And the other great liberal manipulation line is, "No one will help us, we must march in the streets or form a third party." Yeah, right. Like we're going to spin our wheels doing that as opposed to winning the end game, and victory is amazingly close at hand: Everyone knows the forgery is what it is, and Obama has been otherwise hiding his records. Every day more information, a new analysis from a respected source, a new print headline, a local TV station report and some additional damning detail comes out and drives a dozen more nails into the Obama political agenda.
I give Obama 6 months at most to try to run out the clock. By that point he's finished.
Whoever does succeed in removing Soetoro can't, and won't stop there. All of existing government would have been exposed for being the fraud that they are. Our winning includes abolishing massive government spending and corruption. The fight to remove Soetoro is actually a war on the current corrupt federal government. This is much bigger and goes much farther then Soetoro. But, we'll start with his removal and go from there.
On freerepublic, there is an article about some students who set out to prove the bc was valid but found otherwise. Apparently there wasa child born on the same day as bo but died and they cannot find the bc for the deceased child.
http://www.patriotactionnetwork.com/forum/topics/san-diego-students-find-out
We are right to question the Obama “Certificate of Live Birth”.
It contains a forged signature.
The mom’s signature has been tampered with.
You can see this for yourself, simply by zooming in on the certificate on the government web site.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf
You will see that the “Ann D” part is handwritten and the “unham Obama” part has been drawn in by someone else on the computer.
Here is a reference to this:
http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/05/09/internet-engineer-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate-a-forgery/
“Additionally, if you zoom in using Acrobat with your browser on a lot of the text, you’ll notice that it appears jagged and a single color. That’s not original. A pen doesn’t write in a single color; as you write lighter, the color is lighter; as you press harder, it’s darker than everything else. So writing in pen is not a single solid color, and when it scanned, anti-aliased, which means that the square pixels on the edges fade to make it appear smooth. Most of the text in the document including a large portion of the signatures is just a single blotch of color. The likely explanation is that someone just drew them in using a tool similar to “pencil” in Adobe Photoshop.”
Here are a few videos that demonstrate this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT0Tpf1IhxA&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_326068
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW_PWzhgvDs&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_899673
"...... or even that they were married as no marriage license has ever been unearthed. "
Are Hawaiian marriage licenses public record? I thought like birth certificates, they are not considered public record.
Just wondering because if there is no legal marriage between Stanley Ann Durham and Obama Sr., Barack Obama Jr. could, in fact, be an Art. II natural born Citizen.
ex animo
davidfarrar
Agreed: "THERE IS NO RECORD OF LIVE BIRTH FROM ANY USA HOSPITAL"...for Barack Obama. But I do not understand how anyone can suggest this would preclude the possibility that Barack Obama Jr. was born at home in Hawaii, and filled out a non-hospital birth form with the Department of Health, after being examined by Dr. Sinclare at Kapiolani Hospital on August 8, 2011.
ex animo
davidfarrar
Trump is not running for president. Bye, bye any chance of him making the fake WHBC an issue.
According to ABC news Trump is out of the race. That just made our job 100 times more difficult, but not impossible like the naysayers keep saying.
Shit. Oh well. Onward. No choice.
well, can the DOH assign a birth number to someone else, if the original person dies? Or are DOH like SSN and not to be used ever again? Because some obot will say, well they can use the same number over again. Get my drift ? Or is there a specific Hawaii requirement that says you can't do it ?
if there is no legal marriage between Stanley Ann Durham and Obama Sr., Barack Obama Jr. could, in fact, be an Art. II natural born Citizen.
>>>>>no way does that logic above hold water. Would the offspring of Hitler, Mao, Chavez, Park, etc ....be considered NBC if anchored here in USA? I don't think so, not by a long shot.
@batazoid
We went through this on another blog. Marriage has nothing to do with parentage. Obama's father is his father, doesn't matter whether his parents were married or not. Since when is a father not considered a father when he's not married to the child's mother?
Either way he is a liar.
WTF? Trump made it sound the last couple of weeks that he was running. He even said it that he was going to anounce after the last Apprentice. He just lost a lot of respect from many people.
Trump's departure from the race is not a blow to the cause of removing the fraudster.
Barry Barack Soebarkah Steve Dunham Obama Soetoro still needs to get on the ballot on 57 states...still a long way to go here.
I guess Corsi's book is the only hope at this moment?
Does it have the goods ORYR? Is it enough to get it in the media?
I just want everyone to realize that if we wait until the 2012 election before we make congress or the courts kick him out of office we will be waiting for another 1 year and 6 months. Obama is not a natural born citizen under article 2 section 1 of the constitution. Article 2 section 1 only applies to the president and vice president and does not apply to any other office that is government or otherwise in the united states of america.
@Hotlanta Mike
Perfect response. In a way, I think the anger and frustration Trump just caused a lot of people will translate into a much more determined set of state legislatures who will demand to see a birth certificate less credibly deconstructed than the childish fake posed by the white house.
I want everyone to know that no amount of talking, writing, faxing, e-mailing, filing, phoning, or mailing is going to remove Soetoro. For the umpteenth time, only we can do it. We must march in the millions and stay as long as it takes to get the job done. I want to hear from from the idiots who believed Trump. I don't want to mention any names, Pro Graphics, hee, hee, hee, I can't stop laughing. When all of you are tired of fooling around, let me know.
In no way do I think these two lazy, entitled grifters would even attempt this on their own. I think it came from a staff member to the slumlord really running the WH, Valerie Jarrett, possibly someone located in Chicago. The less who know, the better. Although, someone should be checking Fukino's bank account and Hawaiian connections because she's the only one who claimed that Obama had a longform BC.
@Kanbun
If a U.S. citizen mother gives birth out of wedlock, there would be no dual allegiance. The same would apply for a U.S. citizen mother and father unknown.
ex animo
davidfarrar
Trump a fraud and possibly an obot who set the BC ball up for Barry to Tee off, who would a known!
Just about everyone..............
What is upsetting is that Corsi hasn't been booked for a interview on any MSM news show for promoting his book nor has he been booked on any top radio show like Rush, Ingraham, Hannity or Medved. Usually they book authors the week before the book comes out.
Corsi will be on Hannity's radio show tomorrow(Tues.) and I believe the first TV interview after the official book release date(5/17) will be on Hannity's Fox show...
@ 11:59 am,
So go and march - who is stopping you? Have fun. In the meantime, we'll continue doing what is working. Let us know how your big march goes.
I'm hearing rumblings that some state legislators are indeed PO's at Trump and this has made them all the more determined to pass the harshest kind of eligibility laws.
@ObamaRelease YourRecordsThanks for the heads up. Will be tuned in.
Out of all the 57 states, not one will pass a Barry bill. I repeat, in case some of you didn't hear me, not one state will pass a Barry bill in any shape or form. I also knew months ago Trump is a fraud. Unless action is taken, Soetoro will win because no conservative in his or her right mind would vote for any of the current republican candidates. I know I'm not. They are all traitors. It doesn't make sense to support any of them.
An illegal alien criminal is posing as President. Anyone and everyone is guilty. This is beyond Twilight Zone. We're living in the Unknown Zone.
Except not one eligibility law has passed ...
So far, knowing what I know, all I can say is "Wow, Thank God we weren't around in 1776."
Maybe it's just the style of the writer or maybe I lost IQ points during my sleep last night, but I find reading this article to be difficult. I read the first couple of full paragraphs, re-reading almost every sentence before moving on to the next one, until I grew so frustrated with it that I gave up on reading it.
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Who is Bob Strauss? I've seen that name around the blogosphere before but can't remember where. Does anyone know? Was it here?
@ObamaRelease YourRecords
What are the odds that Fukino would have a relative who was born and died right around the time of Barky’s birth date as per his official life narrative? And in Hawaii, too. How convenient is that?
It’s because of claims like that one that I wonder with suspicion about Polland and some of the other self-identified birthers/amateur sleuths among us.
@Anonymous
The article about the San Diego students was written as SATIRE. It was tongue-in-cheek, sarcasm, like a SNL skit. The kids at the high school are, in fact, a bunch of nasty little Libtardians and Obamatons.
@batazoid
If a U.S. citizen mother gives birth out of wedlock, there would be no dual allegiance. The same would apply for a U.S. citizen mother and father unknown.
ex animo
davidfarrar
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The Fraudster has sold the world a story complete with forged documents contending that his parents were married and then got divorced. Now the story is that they were never really married...
All in the mold of BJ Clinton "depends on what the meaning of is is".
@batazoid
Gotta have two citizen parents. Dual allegiance would eliminate someone too. But if you don't have two citizen parents you are not a natural born citizen - dual allegiance or not.
@Pro Graphics
Huh? And where would that tough law be coming from? Arizona and Georgia were the best and they folded like a house of cards. Oklahoma still hasn't gotten it done - and theirs sucks. Who? Who's gonna pass something with teeth? And get it signed into law?
@AuntieMadder
I asked myself the same question when I saw his name.
I can't recall where I've seen that name...
@Kanbun
More by putting pressure on those states than if we simply resign ourselves to the idea that it will never happen. It's called getting things done.
Can you imagine if George W. Bush had all these question marks about his past? The media would have driven him from office his first week in on the job. But since we have our first "black" president they do not want to mess up the narrative. Are they afraid of a large scale riot in the black community if he is removed from office? Are they covering up due to fear or political correctness?
I think you got it right, AM. We've seen what happened in the aftermath of the Rodney King beating and Hurricane Katrina.
Via Jerome Corsi's Facebook page:
At the last minute HANNITY CANCELLED -- I guess joining Bill O'Reilly to dismiss the "Birthers" -- we had keep the first radio for Hannity for 3 months. He cancelled today. STEVE MALZBERG gets the first interview later this afternoon. Call Hannity and let him know what you think.
Like I said b 4, why doesn't everybody get rid of the msnbc,abc,nbc,fox,CNN, etc,etc. and all the rest that show signs and sypmtoms of obotulism, (REMOVE IT FROM YOUR DIRECT TV, or CABLE,or whatever U have), you know, and watch it at the neighbors so you have ammo, but GET RID OF THE CRAP/CRUD, and it DROPS THIER RATINGS TO ZERO. They would littarly LOSE BIG TIME. Then, keep a breast of the internet news, and when the time is right, ( when the obotulism stations change their tune), then get them back to watch them whine and cry, then cut them completely off for good, BOYCOTT, BIG TIME. I too would like to know how to apply my name to this forum. Can someone help with this??
@Anonymous
"I too would like to know how to apply my name to this forum. Can someone help with this??"
Which forum?
To be truthful with you, I thought it was a great moment in History to have a black president, or,,( hmmm, half white, half black,) please hear me out. I now wonder about this big RACE CARD deal now),, but now I feel sorry for the black people, because the time came for them, (and they have been here a long time, not of their original doing, but brought here to be slaves,by white people), not fair, no matter how you look at it),, to have a first president to be black IS a big deal, even tho supposedly half black and half white. I AM WHITE, but I am mad for white and black americans (both) right now, we have both been decieved by this imposter, who purports to BE HALF BLACK, and half white, but truly looks to be MUSLIM, I know, muslim is not a race, you know , like African. right?? (aka birth certificate?). But he looks Middle Eastern, he fits in with the Turban, and you know what I mean ! ! He has duped all of us, black and white both. True Americans. If I was black, I would be outraged, right along with the whites in this country. I am apposed to this "IMPOSTER" living in our White house, and hope another Black American has a shot at this, after the Runination of America by this Imposter. What a shame, and what a sham. The Black Americans in the USA deserve this as much as the White Americans, and this USURPER in the White house, and his minions trampled ALL OF AMERICA. I want the people in congress to know that you will pay, if it be in this World,, or the next.
Has anybody here looked at truth11.com?? Has anybody read about HAARP, and the Weapon that can work with the weather TO DESTRUCTION ?? Just wondering about all the Chemtrails going on that help that LAZER DIRECTED INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX MACHINE to aim their "BEAMS OF DESTRUCTION" at individual COUNTRIES (JAPAN, FUKASHIMA, TETONIC WARFARE),or individual States, Take a look.
If I were Black, I would be pissed off BIG TIME, how dare this man, OBAMA NATION, take that position, I AM WHITE, and I am pissed. The man in OUR Whithouse who plays the Race card, is a Muslim,, the True Black Americans should be outraged, at the least.
@batazoid
If he does not have any actual birth certificate, He really is hiding something by putting this pseudo-record up on the United States of America's White House President site... and using it as proof... coughs...
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