Video: Fox News' Hawaii Affiliate KHON-2 News Report; Obama Birth Certificate Lawsuit Dismissed. VIDEO HERE
Summary of the hearing and actually fair and balanced reporting on FOX HI –KHON 2 at 5/6pm evening news, FOX showed the judge totally biased and dumb
When my turn came, I quickly responded that this whole song and dance with the tangible interest is completely irrelevant to my case, as I am not asking for any disclosure and I don’t need to show any tangible interest.
I showed them different provisions in their state law, that showed, that as an attorney with a case, where the certified copy is at issue, I am entitled to get verification of the documents on file in lieu of the certified copy provided. At that point both the judge and the Deputy Attorney General were bewildered and were thrown out of the loop. They were completely unprepared for this argument.
Nagamine scrambled to come up with something and she came up with the stupidest excuse. She said that the state of HI verifies documents with only 2 words: yes or no, meaning that the document is yes, in records or no, not in records. And they verified and said yes regarding Obama’s records.
I asked to provide rebuttal and stated that he fact that the state even argues this point is completely despicable. I stated, that I provided affidavits and statements from expert, after expert, after expert, all of whom attested to the fact, that the document posted by Mr. Obama on line is a forgery. So, what Ms. Nagamine is stating, is that the state official can provide a clear forgery and defraud 311 American citizens and the only thing the state of HI will do, is have the same official state, that “yes, the document is on file” and that constitutes verification, which means that anyone can issue any forgery in HI.
The whole hearing lasted for an hour. I provided them with rule after rule after rule from HI codes, showing that they are required to allow inspection of the original in lieu of the certified copy. (I ordered the transcript) and will post it, when it is ready, you will have the whole argument.
Also, FOX had their camera in the jury box and it was pointed at me. They recorded the whole hour, but showed small clips at 5pm and a longer clip at 6pm.
Their choice of material for this evening prime time report was very telling. First, they showed me telling the judge:’ Your Honor, I provided in my complaint statements of expert, after expert, after expert stating that what Mr. Obama posted on the internet, is a forgery”
Then they show Nagamine, who argued: “Your Honor, the state verified he records already. If you were to ask the state, whether Obama was born here, they would state –yes”
They finished the clip by saying that after an hour of argument the judge ended by saying 8 words: motion by the state to dismiss the case is granted. This report clearly shows the public, that the judge is biased and unreasonable. She was told to weigh the evidence. She had on one hand multiple affidavits of experts, saying it is a forgery, on the other hand she had one word “yes” from Fuddy, an official who released this forgery, and the judge is agreeing with Fuddy,
FOX is clearly showing the judge to be either corrupt or dumb. It was shown twice in prime time news in HI and millions of people saw it.
After the hearing I gave an interview for channel 8. The judge allowed only 1 camera in the courtroom, so I gave channel 8 interview after the hearing.
Afterwards I went to the clerk’s office, ordered the transcript, later I went to the Federal court, court of Appeals and the Health department. Emergency submission to the court of Appeals will be posted within a few days. More subpoenas will be coming.
From stress and jet lag and nerves, I did not sleep for 2 nights. I will need to get some rest, as I have to be up at 5 am tomorrow.
All related court filings and news reports for the Taitz v Fuddy lawsuit can be found here and here.
Obama's SSN Fails E-Verify System - 03 Oct 2011 Wash Times National Wkly edition - pg 5
69 comments:
Unbelieveable - when I read this sort of thing it makes my blood boil! The corruption runs deep - it is time to start raising hell with these corrupt judges and politicians.
I don't think all of this is for nothing. It continues to show the unbelievable corruption of our legal system and how the powerful don't have to live by the same rules the rest of us do. That's not how its supposed to work.
Nobody does anything about anything until the issues are clearly brought into the light - and through all the defeats that is what this is accomplishing. But it is SOOOO disgusting.
"Today at the hearing it was clear that Judge Nishimura was under marching orders to dismiss the cas,e but give it an impression of a hearing on the merits and some impartiality."
The view from Orly's world. LOL
Just exactly who is giving all these judges their "marching orders"?
So after serving subpoenas to inspect the BC, and filing UIPA requests to inspect the BC, and bringing lawsuits to inspect the BC -- she gives up the case under the Hawaiian law provision that allows inspection of the BC if one has a tangible interest, and she now wants to proceed under a different provision that provides only for verification by DOH?
Why didn't she just say so in the first place?
Poor Orly Every judge is against her.
First, Hawaii states Obama's B.C. was "destroyed in a fire".
Then, Hawaii states "he may not have an actual B.C.".
Then Hawaii states "there's a 'handwritten' notation in a book, in the archives, about his birth".
Then Hawaii states (on live TV) "Obama DOES have a long-form B.C., but it is half-written, and half-typed" unlike most B.C.'s that are ALL typed.
Does ANYONE see "irregularities" here? It took Hawaii THREE YEARS to find that darned B.C.!!!
I THINK ITS ABOUT TIME FOR AMERICAN CITIZEN RISE UP AND DEMAND THAT SOMEONE, SOME WHERE LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE....THIS IS GOING ON TO LONG AND THE AMERICAN CITIZENS HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHO, WHO IS SETTING IN OUR WHITE HOUSE....
WE HAVE THE RIGHT, BUT IT SEEMS WE HAVE LOST IT.
Tell your Obama defenders they are as corrupt as Obama, and that YAHWEH hates their guts due to no justice in the land. These defenders will meet a bad fate according to Holy Scriptures relating to who they really are. They are the biblical tares for told by YAHWEH the CHRIST. Also their edomite counter parts fate has been sealed in the book of Obadiah, so if they do not want to join the edomites, they need to come clean, and render justice concerning this impostor Obama.
Tell your Obama defenders they are as corrupt as Obama, and that YAHWEH hates their guts due to no justice in the land. These defenders will meet a bad fate according to Holy Scriptures relating to who they really are. They are the biblical tares for told by YAHWEH the CHRIST. Also their edomite counter parts fate has been sealed in the book of Obadiah, so if they do not want to join the edomites, they need to come clean, and render justice concerning this impostor Obama.
That Woman DA is a corrupted liar just like the judge. They are wicked and covering up crimes, and evil doing. They will meet a bad fate at the hands of the great KING of KINGS YAHWEH THE CHRIST who punishes corrupted officials, and leaders, for not rendering truth and justice.
The husband of the attorney representing the State of Hawaii was Obama's sister Maya's attorney when she divorced her first husband.
This stinks to influence by Obama high-heaven just like the first eligibility case when a law clerk from the law firm where Obama's personal attorny was a full-partner was sent to "help" the Judge two days before he dismissed the case due to lack of standing after promising to hear the case on its merits.
Obama = Historic Corruption
RacerJim
God Bless and Keep Dr. Orly Taitz and her Family.
Thank you Orly for your relentless efforts.
As long as you have the strengh to keep fighting We will keep supporting you. You are the TRUE Leader of our movement, and for many (myself included) The last "Beacon of Hope" for our Beloved Republic.
Then they show Nagamine, who argued: “Your Honor, the state verified he records already. If you were to ask the state, whether Obama was born here, they would state –yes”
We know there is a record somewhere , does that make the record true????
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@Anonymous
Just exactly who is giving all these judges their "marching orders"?
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Obviously der stat, dummo. The state has no expert to refute the many true experts on the subject in question and the judge goes for the thumbs up or thumbs down given by the state vs how HA law itself reads. In Odumbo's world, everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others! And that's the world lemmings headed for the cliff...or under the bus....continue to march. What a suicidal bunch of unthinking r-obots!
@Anonymous
Poor Orly Every judge is against her.
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No, they're not against her so much as they're terrorized by the Obomba regime and their thugs/media ridicule sycophants.
Poor poor birthers. Every judge is against them.
@Anonymous
"No guts, no glory."
Why doesn't someone ask why the information on the forged document was wrong? The name of the hospital at the time BO would have been born there, in 1961 was Kapiolani Women and Children's Hospital, the name given on BO's fake certificate was Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital. The latter was given after 1978, that was long after BO's supposed birth! My God! I should think this is proof positive that
the certificate shown was a fake!
Americans and the world ARE watching this unfold. Orly and the Constitution WILL be vindicated. And that is the GOOD NEWS! :)
More Hawaiian birth certificates from 1961 are needed to compare to Obama's fraudulent one.
@Anonymous
"The name of the hospital at the time BO would have been born there, in 1961 was Kapiolani Women and Children's Hospital"
This is completely false. First look at the Nordyke BC's they both say Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital.
Recently, WND published the BC of someone born on August, 23rd, 1961, it says Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital.
Then there is this legal case from 1934,
"This is an appeal taken from the decision of the Supreme Court of the territory of Hawaii rendered upon an agreed case submitted to that court in pursuance of sections 2371 to 2374, inclusive, of Revised Laws of Hawaii 1925. The parties to the agreement are the Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital and Ernest H. Wodehouse and James L. P. Robinson, executors of the will of Mary E. Foster, deceased."
http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?q=Kapiolani+Maternity+and+Gynecological&hl=en&as_sdt=2003&case=6202324661126393003&scilh=0
@Anonymous
"More Hawaiian birth certificates from 1961 are needed to compare to Obama's fraudulent one."
So far there are five and they breakdown like this:
WND – 09945 – 08/23/1961
Nordyke, S. – 10637 – 08/05/1961
Nordyke, G. – 10638 – 08/05/1961
Obama, B. – 10641 – 08/04/1961
Waidelich, S. – 10920 – 08/05/1961
For them to stoop to imbecilic parsing of words just shows that they are against the ropes and desperately trying to fend off on blow after another. It won't be long before one of them slams right into their jaw, sending their mouthpiece and drool flying over the horrified media covering the event.
This is all very simple.
In Feb. 2011, the Gov. of Hawaii said he would show the world BHOs BC. With all of his power, which in a state is ultimate, he stated that there that IS NO BC for BHO. He has NEVER backed off that statement.
If there was an authentic one - it would have been plastered all over the media years ago.
How many times does this need to be repeated for everyone to GET IT?
My guess is that Barry was born to a different mother and father, under a different name and at an undisclosed location that is still a mystery.
That is why Barry is terrified to release any of his past records. It would reveal WHO he REALLY IS.
Orly, don't give up or back down. The truth is behind you and so are alot of people.
Fogblow! Obots suck!
www.fogblow.com
You Anons are a bunch of CS's for not giving yourselves names and sticking with them!! Who are you??!! Be somebody!!
@Anonymous 7:54 PM: The Nordyke's BC's have been proven FAKE, too!! (I think Polarik proved them as FAKE!)
@Anonymous
Poor poor birthers. Every judge is against them.
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Thank you for acknowledging the corruption of the justice system today.
@Saska
"The Nordyke's BC's have been proven FAKE, too!!"
Well of course they are, in fact every birth certificate ever produced in Hawaii is a fake.
Is that the same Polarik who got caught faking images over at FreeRepublic?
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@ Anon at 9:40 p.m. re. "That is why Barry is terrified to release any of his past records. It would reveal WHO he REALLY IS."
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Perhaps they would reveal him as the scion of the radical Malcolm X: http://terribletruth.wordpress.com/tag/muhammad-speaks/
If that is the case, then he indeed could be a natural-born citizen unless he was born in Kenya and/or didn't lose his citizenship by virtue of his adoption by his Indonesian stepfather. Either way, he most likely has committed a criminal act of fraud on us. And for that he earns a long stay at Fort Leavenworth and/or deportation.
Don't know if this is true. Someone claims at a Barry site that NC sec. of state demands documents.
http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/10/13/presidential-candidate-will-challenge-obamas-eligibility/ You should make a headline for this
@Anonymous
Waidelich, S. – 10920 – 08/05/1961
If true that's the number that Waidelich was issued back in April, it is clear that the Hawaiian DoH falsified the COLB number for the Main Stream Media TV camera.
There is noway that almost 300 births separated the Waidelich and Obama births in a 24 hours or less period since the birth form numbers are and were sequentially issued in ascending order at the time of births.
Yes OBots, it's preposterous to say that the form numbers are not sequentially issued.
@Anonymous
According to Fox News, the administration of the previous Hawaiian Governor, Lind Lingle had moved the Obama birth certificate to a more secure location and when there was a change of administration in Hawaii on December 7, 2010, Abercrombie's folks didn't know that had happened.
Here's a link to the Fox News story:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/27/obama-birth-certificate-moved-secure-location-months-ago/
You Obots are so pathetic!!!!
Governor Abrecrombie stated all they found at the H-DOH was a handwritten notation.
@Anon 7:25 AM. First of all, get yourself a name and use it!! Be BRAVE, we must be BRAVE here or we're soon to have the Commies telling us what to do and when to do it!! I don't do Free Republic because they ban people for saying things against Obama. So, I have no idea. But Polarik, Ron Polland, same guy, I think. He does have a website, but I don't have it to give to you. He's in the Photoshop business so would know and probably be able to re-create a FAKE very easily. I think in the archives here is the article about the Nordyke twins. If not, check out drkatesview and/or WeThePeople, or CitizenWells. Also check out OBAMAFAKE!
ALL involved in this wide ranging conspiracy WILL be brought to JUSTICE,just you wait and see.
@RS
"If true that's the number that Waidelich was issued back in April, it is clear that the Hawaiian DoH falsified the COLB number for the Main Stream Media TV camera."
WND produced a Hawaiian BC from a girl born on August 23rd, 1961 - it's cert # is 09945. The last name begins with an A. There are 975 cert numbers between 09945 and 10920. There were 17,578 births reported in Hawaii for 1961(CDC reports). That is an average of 1465 per month or approximately 48per day. There are 11 extra days when children could have been born in Hawaii (Aug 1-3 and Aug 24-31) which are not included in the August 4th to August 23rd period. 11 days x 48 births/day + 975 = 1503. That's pretty close to the average per month. And 975 / 20 days = 49 per day. That is pretty close to the daily average
It looks like the birth certificates were collected put in alphabetical order by last name and assigned a certification number on a monthly basis.
@Saska
"Ron Polland, same guy, I think. He does have a website, but I don't have it to give to you. He's in the Photoshop business so would know and probably be able to re-create a FAKE very easily."
He only started to seriously use Photoshop after the birth certificate became an issue. He is a relationship counselor of some kind.
If you watch his video on the Nordyke BC's, he basic says that the same type of form, with the same basic data, typed on the same typewriter by in all likelihood the same typist has similarities in in letter spacing and alignment. Which is exactly what you would expect.
@Anonymous
It looks like the birth certificates were collected put in alphabetical order by last name and assigned a certification number on a monthly basis.
That's just BS. They were numbered by the DoH as soon as the birth certificate came through the main office DoH's doors, which is the logical way to do it. This was resolved way back in early 2010 when the DoH spokesman (non-PC term) Okubo admitted how and when file numbers were placed on birth certificates.
Here it is from the horse's mouth Janice Okubo:
"In regards to the terms “date accepted” and “date filed” on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. HISTORICALLY, the terms “Date accepted by the State Registrar” and “Date filed by the State Registrar” referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of O’ahu or on the neighbor islands of Kaua’i, Hawai’i, Maui, Moloka’i, or Lana’i), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of O’ahu) respectively.
HISTORICALLY, most often the “date accepted” and the “date filed” is the same date as the majority of births occur on O’ahu (the island with the largest population in our state). In the past, when births were recorded on paper they may have been accepted at a health office on an island other than O’ahu, such as Kaua’i. The paper record would then need to be sent to O’ahu to have a file number placed on it, and the filed date would then be sometime later (as you know, the state of Hawai’i is comprised of multiple islands with miles of water in between). The electronic age has changed this process significantly, and it was determined some time ago that one date would suffice.
Janice Okubo
Hawaii State Department of Health "
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2457491/posts?page=588#588
Where was Waidelich, S born? No doubt he was born on O’ahu.
To repeat, HISTORICALLY the file number was placed on the form the same day the baby was born as well as the 'date accepted' and 'date filed.'
There were 17,578 births reported in Hawaii for 1961(CDC reports). That is an average of 1465 per month or approximately 48per day.
Funny how all these births never got reported in the newspaper like OBots like to believe... exceedingly less than the CDC number. Ask Fred Nerks at FR. He did the research on it.
@RS
"it is clear that the Hawaiian DoH falsified the COLB number for the Main Stream Media TV camera."
So you are saying Stig has two cert #s? The one from 1961 and the one from 2011.
How did the DOH know that Stig wouldn't produce his original BC witha different cert number?
@RS
The Birther Summit guys need to offer $1000 for every August, 1961 BC. Then things can be placed in the correct order.
@Anonymous
One OBot after the next...
First of all, the COLB file number was obscured (likely electronically - I've got photo captures of the video) in the Lame Stream Media broadcast video, and I don't know where the alleged enhancement of the file number came from or how it was done. For all I know, that it is a made up number by some OBot. I'd say likely so.
Furthermore, ole Stig was helping out the Lame Stream Media, and the LSM story was timed with the releases of Obama's fake birth certificate on April 27th of this year. Like Stig would notice anyways for the broadcast - doubt he would notice or care. Dang likely that ole Stig is an OBot, and he would NOT throw a monkey wrench into the story during or after the LSM filming.
@RS
"To repeat, HISTORICALLY the file number was placed on the form the same day the baby was born as well as the 'date accepted' and 'date filed.'"
WND's BC was filed on August 24th and has a number (09945) much lower than the Nordyke's. Is it also a fake?
@Anonymous
WND's BC was filed on August 24th and has a number (09945) much lower than the Nordyke's. Is it also a fake?
Why no link to your source FogBum? You've got to do better than that OBot. No matter since I went look'n for your OBot story.
And oh here it is. From the old OBum Dr. CONspiracy:
"WND Mystery certificate – 09945 – 8/23/1961"
Really Dr. CON?
Then how come the image of the 'Mystery BC' that you show has no file number written on it as it is covered up? Dr. CON says he found the image of the BC in a Google cache, (since he says that WND allegedly tried to hide the file number) but the image he is showing still has no file number.
See for yourself.
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/09/new-hawaiian-certificate-explodes-birther-theories/
I suppose we are "to believe" a known BS'er's word that the number is what he says it is on the mystery Hawaiian BC since what Dr CON published on the net doesn't show a file number in the upper right corner of the document. LoL.
When you do a Goooooogle image search on
"WND Mystery certificate 09945"
You get nothing - again.
However, you do come up with this website that says 09945 in a "photoshop enhancement" (highly likely BS) of the masked number that shows in a very small cropped image of the alleged BC. But again, there's no way to know where the image came from let alone from the so called mystery BC.
LoL OBots - You guys are idiotic clowns - sheeeesh.
@charlene I noticed that too Charlene! She made it sound like it was a rhetorical question! Will this corrupt madness ever end?! I'm beginning to wonder. I have to give credit to Orly for continuing to fight after she's been knocked down so many times. I just pray that there's ONE, just ONE brave judge out there! That's about the best we can do at this point, aside from a Revolution.
Nothing short of a revolution is going to resolve this. To think otherwise is being naive. At some point, all paying attention will realize this, if we're not there already. Meanwhile, we face ridicule and scorn. I just can't believe this is America. We need to come to terms with what we're facing, if we have the guts. We don't have to play these games in court. In fact, we should let it be known all bets are off and we mean business. To stand and be counted is in order. No more talk. The situation calls for action. Oh yeah, can someone please let the sheriff know he can come out from under the bed now?
@RS
"Really Dr. CON?"
Thanks for that link.
But actually it is from two other sources.
http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obamabirthbook.com/2011/09/i-catch-worldnetdaily-scrubbing-information-that-directly-contradicts-one-of-dr-jerome-corsis-most-important-fraud-theories/
And the FreeRepublic
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2778544/posts?q=1&;page=1
Butterdezillion says the WND BC is a fake, but why would WND put out a fake BC?
Hawaii is a liberal/commie state. Of course they will not release Obunga's birth certificate. Obunga's Social Security number didn't pass E-Verify. Obunga couldn't even get a job in the White House cleaning toilets if he were properly vetted.
@Dealio
Sheriff Arpaio said that his posses meet for up to five year terms. He is not personally a member of the posse and he does not meet with them on a regular basis. He receives and acts on their investigative reports.
The Sheriff is waiting for them to finish their investigation.
People who make excuses and show contempt for those seeking the truth with regards to The Great Odogma are being dishonest and are probably dishonest with others in their daily lives. Not exactly an admirable personal quality there Obots! I for one am not fooled by your intransigent ignorance/arrogance and lies.
@RS
"Really Dr. CON?"
Thanks for the link, had not seen that one.
Here is the FreeRepublic link by Butterdezillion
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2778544/posts?q=1&;page=1
Butter believes it is a forgery, but that seems unusual. Why would WND and Paul Irey post a fake BC?
@Anonymous
"Governor Abrecrombie stated all they found at the H-DOH was a handwritten notation."
Wrong. He said there was a written notation in the STATE ARCHIVES, a completely different agency. You need to brush up on your reading skills.
11:49 A.M. Thanks, I knew that, though. O.K., it's fair to say Sheriff Arpaio, and all sheriffs across this land, are not, I repeat are not, investigating the illegal. That is why I have been saying forget Arpaio. By the way he was handling the situation from the beginning of his involvement, he appeared as if he had seen a ghost. I immediately knew, and stated here, he's done. What hurts is, who the fuck does he think he's fooling? Oh yeah, that goes for the rest of you chickenshit bastards on the public dole who have betrayed the country.
@Gas_Passer
The governor who refused to release Obama's birth records BEFORE the election was a Republican, Linda Lingle and she gave one of Sarah Palin's endorsement speeches at the Republican National Convention.
The Judge that rejected Orly Taitz's lawsuit to investigate Obama's Social Security records, Judge Royce C. Lamberth was appointed by President Reagan.
The Commissioner of the Social Security Administration who also has been protecting Obama is Michael J. Astrue. Ms. Taitz sued him. He was appointed by President George W. Bush.
The Republicans in Congress have refused to hold hearings on Zero's eligibility.
There's enough bipartisan blame to go around.
> However, you do come up with this website that says 09945 in a "photoshop enhancement" (highly likely BS)
BS? Well, just go to the WND article, get the second image (the one of the backside) and try for yourself. Too scared to do it?
> But again, there's no way to know where the image came from let alone from the so called mystery BC.
Just go to the WND site, it still has the images used for that Photoshop extraction.
Because you won't do it doesn't mean the fact disappears. You're still going "na na na I can't hear you" in the face of everything that contradicts your bias.
@Anonymous
Butter believes it is a forgery, but that seems unusual. Why would WND and Paul Irey post a fake?
I took a very close look at the file number and Butter is at least correct that the FogBums have gotten the number wrong. You should be able to guess why. LoL. However, the Hawaiian Certificate file number "09945" that the OBums claim is really "109945". The "1" is faded out more than the other numbers, but the "1" is there nonetheless. I've got an image of it that shows the "1" clear enough after adjusting color hues and contrast in a Photoshop type program Gimp. I'll load it up on the net soon. You can actually see the 1 if you look for it in front of the "0" [zero] from that OBot link that you provided. Got to go now.
Just go to the WND site, it still has the images used for that Photoshop extraction.
Because you won't do it doesn't mean the fact disappears. You're still going "na na na I can't hear you" in the face of everything that contradicts your bias.
One more post for the delusional Village OBot before I go.
Yooohooo knucklehead. the "WND Mystery Certificate" file number is NOT '61-09945' BUT '61-109945'.
@RS
So the Nordykes are at 10638 and the WND is at 109945.
109945 - 10638 = 99307
So are you saying there were almost 100,000 births in Hawaii between August 13th and 23rd.
What does Fred Nerks think about that?
@Anonymous
So the Nordykes are at 10638 and the WND is at 109945.
109945 - 10638 = 99307
So are you saying there were almost 100,000 births in Hawaii between August 13th and 23rd.
Hmmmmmmmmmm... something is screwy with that number. I see two "ones" [11] instead of just "1" number character. On second thought, Butter could be right that it is a fake.
I uploaded the file number off the "WND Mystery Certificate" here:
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll1/BecJul/Political%202/WNDMysteryCertificateFil_Num.jpg
I'll fiddle around with the color balance and contrast and the other Photoshop tools to see if I can get a better image of the faded nums, and if I do I'll put it on the Web. It sure looks like two number character 1s are in front of the 09945. It appears to be 61-119945 where the 1s are faded more than the other numbers but you still see the 1s.
@RS
"On second thought, Butter could be right that it is a fake."
There appear to be only a few options.
1.) That WND produced a fake BC to bolster Paul Irey's analysis (or for some or unknown reason) but in the process screwed up the cert # or WND is in league with Obama.
2.) someone else produced a fake BC to trick WND and none of the WND experts caught it.
3.) It is legit.
Corsi recently said "This is not a personal attack on Obama. I don't necessarily even dislike him. In fact, I'd like him to stay around a bit longer and I'll write more books."
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=349769#ixzz1b5yEqlkX
Why doesn't he want Obama removed immediately? Is this only about money?
@Anonymous
4) OBots used a variation of the man-in-the-middle attack by stating they found the Google cache image and then BS'd everyone.
From the OBot website:
"By the way, at the time of this article the original image is still currently available in google’s cache — if you hurry."
If yoooooou HurrY!
It's not there anymore or was it ever there?
So OBot/FogBlower clown has WND ever confirmed the "mystery certificate" file number that you clowns say it is?
...Yeah that's what I thought - nope.
@RS
"So OBot/FogBlower clown has WND ever confirmed the "mystery certificate" file number that you clowns say it is?"
The cert # has always been redacted, the google cache comment refers to the fact they redacted things that they previously revealed. But cert # wasn't one of them.
In every case, the cert number for this mysterious BC comes from looking at the bleed through on the back of the cert. Go to WND sites, save the back of the image (the side with registrar's stamp) to your computer then you can see the images. And not just the cert number. Other information is also recognizable.
Now here is a question for you, since the cert number contains no identifying information, why wouldn't WND publish it? Why hide it? Unless it screws up the whole cert number theory.
In every case, the cert number for this mysterious BC comes from looking at the bleed through on the back of the cert. Go to WND sites, save the back of the image (the side with registrar's stamp) to your computer then you can see the images. And not just the cert number. Other information is also recognizable.
Then nothing would change the fact that you OBots are selectively ignoring the extra images of the characters in front of the "09945" in the alleged file number in the alleged Google's cache image or WND's "new" certificate image ...as in "109945" or "1109945."
LoL. Old DR. CON thinks it's all sinister WND plot!
Dr. CON - "Now WorldNetDaily has published a certificate it says is authentic dating, from August 23, 1961, that has a lower number (61-09945) than both Nordyke and Obama! (Of course, they tried to cover up the number and then they did cover it up, but Google’s cache doesn’t forget.)"
Yeah CON, you caught WND red-handed!!
Dr. CONspiracy continues -
"Thanks to Computer Guy John Woodman, author of Is Barack Obama’s Birth Certificate a Fraud? for publishing this discovery by “Woofer.” I urge readers to read Woodman’s article because it not only presents the discovery with the care and attention to detail we have come to expect from Woodman, but because it describes some shenanigans at WorldNetDaily that may have been aimed at covering this all up. "
LoL Dr. CON somehow, and according to OBots that WND "forgot" to cover up the "BIG Prize" of the bleed though file number in the remade [2nd] "Mystery Certificate".
It's all a sinister WND plot I tell yah, and Dr. CON caught them in the act!
@RS
"as in "109945" or "1109945.""
If you are right then everything we thought we knew about how cert #'s are assigned is wrong.
BWI when you look at the backside image can you figure out the father's first name and the mother's home address?
Jill Nagamine @ 1:02 says -
"I have this record here. Was Barack Hussein Obama the II born in Hawaii? The answer, the verification, would be yes."
"Yes" to what - and that record is what Nagamine? Is is about some scribble in a log of someone stating Obama was born in Hawaii? Is this your so-called "verification" Nagamine? LoL.
This is what you should have said Nagamine if Obama was actually born in Hawaii, and you clowns do really believe the documentation you have on file that Obama was born in a Hawaiian hospital and without your BS.
...A statement that Nagamine should have said or something very similar to the court:
The state of Hawaii has an actual and genuine filed birth certificate where it states Obama was born on August 2nd, 1961 in Kapiolani hospital, Honolulu, Hawaii; and the birth was verified and signed by the attending physician, mother, local registrar, and further verified and signed by the Director of Heath and the state Registrar General.
As you all can see, we did not get any unequivocal statement from Nagamine as I wrote above.
Nagamine later states in the news video -
"She [Taitz] has given no authority to this court that would provide us with any reason to believe that she is in a position of power of the holder of the White House".
No Nagamine, Taitz is seeking the truth in this matter that you failed to answer without weasel words. How or when Obama would or could get thrown out of the White House is all a different matter after the truth has seen the light in of day in the Lame Stream Media and the rest of the country.
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