We received several messages this afternoon by email and comments that attorney Orly Taitz's case in Hawaii 'Taitz v. Fuddy' was dismissed by Judge Rhonda Nishimura during today's hearing.
This post will be updated as more details are forthcoming.
Hawaii's KHON-2: Woman denied request to see Obama's birth certificate
A woman who has been seeking to inspect President Barack Obama's original birth certificate has run into another road block.
Circuit Court Judge Rhonda Nishimura granted the state's motion to dismiss a request by Dr. Orly Taitz to see that certificate.
The state says it has verified that the president's birth certificate is real.
Last spring the White House released that document to the public.
Taitz alleges the online release is a forgery. MORE HERE
Attorney Orly Taitz: New twist, now the Attorney General of HI states, that they verify forged documents by a yes or no answer from the official, who provided the forgery in the first place. Case goes to the intermediate court of appeals, new subpoenas to be served shortly HERE
All related court filings and news reports for the Taitz v Fuddy lawsuit can be found here and here.
Taitz v Fuddy - Hawaii Circuit Court - Opposition to Motion to Dismiss - 9/30/2011
Obama's SSN Fails E-Verify System - 03 Oct 2011 Wash Times National Wkly edition - pg 5
78 comments:
What, Mad Old Orly lost ANOTHER case, say it's not true.....
In a first however, she stated in the court that she had been to a law library and YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE WHAT SHE FOUND THERE...!
WHAT ASTONISHES ME IS THAT SHE WENT TO A LAW LIBRARY. THAT HAS TO BE A FIRST.
Hey Anon,
You could be the top lawyer in the USA and your case would be dismissed if you filed it against Obama-Soetoro-Bunnell.
The ruling class in this country is corrupt and idiots who make comments like you did are the reason we are in such a mess.
All you Dems love Pelosi and believe she is anti-rich and banker. Oh really! How much money does she have? Her husband, real estate investor and investment banker, is part of a big real estate deal with someone that Pelosi help his daughter get elected ambassador.
This is how both parties act. This is why no real American should support the candidate that is the parties favorite.
You all better wake up and realize how corrupt both parties are. Only the 2nd Amendment has saved our country from being totally taken over.
Hey Mac--I mean OPOVV. The Dems control the White House and the Senate, whether you like it or not. Live with it.
BTW how many $$$$ have you donated to help out Orly? She's going to need funds for an appeal.
Just wait till Sheriff Joe comes knocking and see if Loretta "Fuddy" Duddy and her fellow stooges will be so bold as to pull off this shit.
So, what's the tally now for Orly Victories vs Orly Losses?
"This is why no real American should support the candidate that is the parties favorite."
You mean supporting someone like, oh, I dunno, Thomas Gregory MacLeran of Tennessee, FEC # P20003463 ????
Furthermore, the assholes kissing the illegal SOB's hiney will never convince the public that his BC is the real deal simply by taking their lying word for it and not having any forensic document expert check it out. That is pure, treasonous bullshit!
California birther/dualer/doubter, how is Joe going to do that if most of his staff is being arrested for drug trafficking?
@California birther/dualer/doubter
Does Joe have jurisdiction in Hawaii?
Does an Arizona subpoena carry any weight in Hawaii?
Won't Joe have to go to Hawaii State Court and request a subpoena?
May be he'll draw Judge Rhonda Nishimura.
Cal. b/d/d sez: Just wait till Sheriff Joe comes knocking and see if Loretta "Fuddy" Duddy and her fellow stooges will be so bold as to pull off this shit.
Someone will have to tell Sheriff Joe that he has no jurisdiction at all outside Maricopa County, AZ. If he comes knocking at the Hawaii Dept. of Health, he might get a free lollipop, but that's all.
By the way, Sheriff Joe's posse was formed Sept. 18, more than 3 weeks ago. How long does it take to fill out a subpoena for a birth certificate?
Hey Anonymous... How that hope and change treating you??? Love your unemployment? You are correct... The libs do control congress and are to blame for the mess we are in...If Obama had nothing to hide, why seal every single record? Who is this man in the White House? Hey Anonymous... time to collect the cans..
"California birther/dualer/doubter said...[Reply]
Furthermore, the assholes kissing the illegal SOB's hiney will never convince the public that his BC is the real deal simply by taking their lying word for it and not having any forensic document expert check it out. That is pure, treasonous bullshit!"
No, it's actually Constitutional... Full Faith and Credit Clause.
Sheriff Joe can have a Federal judge in Arizona to subpoena the State of Hawaii for the records.
Think about this OBOT. We just need to just one Federal Judge to grab the birth certificate. Obama has to win each and every case.
@Anonymous
Hey Anon 3:39 says
"BTW how many $$$$ have you donated to help out Orly? She's going to need funds for an appeal."
Actually we have donated to Orly, was with her to get the first state reps signed on, organized the SS# list and validated the addresses, went to visit one of Obama-Soetoro-Bunnell's supposed home, and much other help.
Take a lesson from lawyers. Don't ask a question if you don't know the answer.
I would suggest supporting Herman Cain.
@California birther/dualer/doubter
Sheriff Joe has no authority outside of Maricopa County, Arizona.
Fuddy and Onaka will ignore him on the advice of the Attorney General of the state of Hawaii.
If Sheriff Joe gets an Arizona judge to issue a valid court order, Fuddy will send the Sheriff a certified copy of an Obama short form COLB for his posse to see.
An Arizona county posse is an investigative body only, it has no prosecutorial duties.
NO subpoena will work in Hawaii. The law there clearly states that you need a court order to get a copy of a birth record and a subpoena is NOT a court order. A judge issued warrant is a court order.
@Anonymous
Good thing that birthers historically have had a great relationship with judges.
Sherrif Joe has all the evidence he will need. He wont need to go to HI to get to the bottom of this fraud. He will show that in the State of AZ b0 fraudulently won the election in Maricopa Co.
Seems to me, it's in everyone's interest to support the Constitution whenever they can. It has been said that freedom takes work, dedication, and perseverance, as exemplified in our National Cemeteries. Freedoms aren't free, and to discard what has taken the toil of years and lives is the epitomy of irresponsibility. Truth knows no master; lies are the servants of the gullable. If a supporter of Obama has nothing to fear, then why even bother being concerned about the activities of Orly, or any others "seeking the truth"?
What the hell are all of you talking about? There is no "Sheriff Joe". Some on our side are just as full of "it" as the illegal and co. We're still in denial. If Orly has taught us anything, it is there is no one left but us plain folks. All controlling authority has both betrayed abd abandoned us. We're on our own.
Want civil war?
*B*R*I*N*G *I*T* *O*N!!!!!!!
@Anonymous
"Full faith and credit clause."
Exactly right.
Will the good folks posting here PLEASE read Article 4, Section 1 of the US Constitution before showing their ignorance of our form of government. Its very brief and its very easy to read.
WTH are all you OBOTS worried about if you think he's so LEGAL??? Why do you follow what Orly does if you think he's so LEGAL?? You are all in denial and you know it. You know that scum in the White House is legal. It's only a matter of time before one of his "own" DemonRats turn on him and squeal like a stuck pig. Hopefully we won't have to wait for that because Sheriff Joe's Posse should be coming out with a statement soon saying Obozo can't be on the AZ ballot in 2012. :) I hope you OBOTS choke on your own self-rightousness when that happens. Read this....the SOB is going down one way or another. You can take that to the bank. Fast & Furious is ongoing and strong. Along with several other investigations. It ain't over by a looooong shot.
@charlene
"Sherrif Joe has all the evidence he will need. He wont need to go to HI to get to the bottom of this fraud. He will show that in the State of AZ b0 fraudulently won the election in Maricopa Co."
If that's true, then evidence of birth certificate forgery is not on Sheriff Joe's agenda because only by examining the ORIGINAL document can you validate a forgery. The Hawaii Department of Health has the original document.
He would then need to present that evidence to a Maricopa County Grand Jury. If the grand jury decides to indict, there would be a trial. If the trial found Obama guilty, there would be a state level appeal, if the appeal failed, it would go to the Arizona Supreme Court. If the Arizona Supreme Court upheld the lower courts' rulings, Obama would appeal to the US District Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. If Obama loses there, he would appeal to the US Supreme Court and that case would likely be heard sometime in 2013.
@Anonymous
"Sheriff Joe can have a Federal judge in Arizona to subpoena the State of Hawaii for the records."
Bwahahahahahahahaha!
A federal judge in Arizona has jurisdiction only over the District of Arizona. Sheriff Joe only has jurisdiction in Maricopa County. Joe acts as an officer of the state of Arizona, and Arizona cannot order Hawaii to do squat.
@OPOVV
"Take a lesson from lawyers. Don't ask a question if you don't know the answer."
I knew the answer. I just wanted to see how wasteful you are with money and if you would admit to throwing dollars at a lost cause like the distance-learning Moldavan. Fiscal management doesn't seen your strong suit, for someone who wants to run for the Presidency.
@charlene
"Sherrif Joe has all the evidence he will need. He wont need to go to HI to get to the bottom of this fraud. He will show that in the State of AZ b0 fraudulently won the election in Maricopa Co."
Charlene, baby doll. McCain carried Maricopa County, 746,448 to 602,166.
@AR925
We're not worried. Far from it. We're just funnin' witcha. Today's spectacular fail by Orly has us partying.
It was so predictable.
The truth shall set you free. HIstorically, and someday, the truth will be told.
@Anonymous
"Think about this OBOT"
Think about this, there isn't a single Federal Judge who will grab the birth certificate.
Schitt, typing too fast!
"You know that scum in the White House is illegal"! is what it should have said.
You have to admit, it's getting closer and closer to bringing down ALL the "forgeries" surrounding this President. The recent situation in Indiana---by SOMEONE in the Democrat Party---the pressure coming down on Holder and the DOJ about Fast & Furious---Obama's TERRIBLE poll numbers, day after day! What is done in darkness is ALWAYS "found out" in the light!
@Anonymous
"The truth shall set you free. HIstorically, and someday, the truth will be told."
You are absolutely right. In 2037 the DOH in Hawaii will open its records from 1961, anyone will be able to order a copy of Barak Obama's birth certificate.
Provided they don't change the laws between now and then.
@Anonymous
None of that matters when the gov. itself admits that current Obama is using a phonied up SSN. Ergo, in the present moment the man is no kind of citizen and has to fraud his way to live here. Those facts are on the record with not only one use of said phony SSN noted with evidence but at least two...and done recently too. Start there, in the present, and all the backwards gazing is concluded with or without hands on the must be fako BC!!
@Anonymous
With all the ignorant Obama sycophants, including the mass drive bys and corrupt justice system to his benefit, willing to follow the dopey One over the cliff of choice, you'd think he'd have it made. But no, even with all that cushy security for corruption he's admittedly so stupid that Odopey is still screwin up his big chance to carry out his diabolical plans against the free world. Maybe he'll learn someday that while he's busy throwin everybody else under the bus, his satanic idol of worship in the end will do the same to him after he's served his purpose to evil.
7:34 P.M., I thought we were close a few times a couple of years ago. I was obviously wrong. We haven't left square one. The corruption has gone unchecked for too long. There has to be a total house cleaning by us. I have no faith in anyone connected to the government in trying to expose this illegal. They won't do it. That includes any, each, and all sheriffs. I point to the last 3 years as proof and evidence. Now, I do have a better understanding and meaning of the phrase, "We the people...". That means us.
@Anonymous
"Bwahahahahahahahaha!
A federal judge in Arizona has jurisdiction only over the District of Arizona. Sheriff Joe only has jurisdiction in Maricopa County. Joe acts as an officer of the state of Arizona, and Arizona cannot order Hawaii to do squat."
So FogBlow OBot, you think Arizona can't do squat??
As usual, OBots get it wrong.
Have you ever heard of
"Compelling an Out-Of-State Witness to Give Testimony or Produce
Records at a Deposition for Use in a Foreign Jurisdiction" as in accordance with the "Uniform Foreign Depositions Act" (UFDA)?
Or even letters rogatory?
Maricopa County could initiate criminal action if Obama has violated the law and subpoena the state of Hawaii.
Silly OBot.
@RS...I agree.
Obots are like propagandist Joseph Goebbels of Nazi Germany fame. Tell a lie often enough and people will believe it. Obots tell lies that sound like 'fact'....but they're lies nonetheless.
Boneheaded Obots hobby is to kick cow turds on a hot day....which is something I don't recommend.
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@RS
Because Hawaii DOH is a non-party to the action, Arizonia would still have to go to Hawaii State Court and get a subpoena from them. An Arizonia subpoena is worthless in Hawaii.
@Anonymous
Because Hawaii DOH is a non-party to the action, Arizonia would still have to go to Hawaii State Court and get a subpoena from them. An Arizonia subpoena is worthless in Hawaii.
Well silly OBot you apparently didn't actually read what I wrote. Does "Letters rogatory" ring a bell from above among other things? There are procedures for one state to get another state that is from another jurisdiction to comply with subpoenas.
And I see that you expect the Hawaiian corruption to continue in their courts and along with the DoH by not honoring legitimate criminal action originating in another state just because the legal action is about Obama.
If that were to happen, anyone with at least a half a brain, except the OBots who always lie, distort, and scoff at the law, would grasp the significance of Hawaii being a knavish, rogue state. All for a stupid birth certificate that FogDumb OBots "think" that it's genuine. Suuuure you do LoL.
But hey, Hawaii not being legally compliant would not surprise me not one bit.
http://clerkofcourt.maricopa.gov/faxondemand/202.pdf
CLERK OF THE COURT
SUPERIOR COURT OF ARIZONA
MARICOPA COUNTY
201 West Jefferson
Phoenix, Arizona 85003
Michael K. Jeanes
Clerk
Instructions for Filing a Foreign Deposition
Well, *I* read what you wrote, and here's what *I* saw:
"Maricopa County could initiate criminal action if Obama has violated the law and subpoena the state of Hawaii."
I assume you are a legal scholar so I won't presume to question your accuracy. However, I *do* know English, and there are two tricky words in your statement which render it pointless.
Post back again when Maricopa County HAS initiated criminal action over a law Obama HAS violated. Till then, pigs COULD fly IF they had wings.
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
Legal beagle RS thinks Hawaii is a foreign nation. Letters rogatory, LOL.
News Flash: Letters rogatory is the procedure for making requests of foreign courts through diplomatic channels. Governed by various Hague conventions, including the Hague Service Convention and tha Hague Evidence Convention.
So red, tell us, which diplomatic mission handles matters between Arizona and Hawaii, huh? Are both states signators of the Hague Conventions? PLease, enlighten us with your vast legal experience.
@RS
"Does "Letters rogatory" ring a bell from above among other things?"
Does Hawaii is still part of the Ubnited States ring a bell with you?
Or were you contemplating they would serve the Hawaii Kingdom?
A letter rogatory is a request, not a command. So what does Arizona do if Hawaii tells it to take a hike?
@Commykiller
I'd take that crystal ball back to Walmart and ask for a refund, if I were you. It has been failing you for the last four years.
Albert Einstein once said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
Court challenges to the President's eligiblity have now been defeated 129 times in a row including 12 losses at the Supreme Court of the United States.
Get a clue!
@Anonymous
If an Arizona judge issues a valid court order for the President's birth certificate, the state of Hawaii most likely would be happy to forward to that Arizona judge a certified copy of the Obama COLB that has been available on the internet for anyone to see since 2008.
But an Arizona judge could get his or her own fresh, brand new, copy.
@AR925
Joe does not get to decide who will ne on the ballot. That is the job of Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett.
JBH, I am sure you are correct, as i know you know what you talk about. I was assuming that not only the BC being a fraud, but the SS# and Selective Service fraud would be enough. He would have been on the ballot illegally. HI would not really be all that important to a AZ case. Am I wrong?
Annon, basically the same argument in my miond, it dooesn't matter that McCain won in Maricopa, Obama would still be fraudulently on the ballot.
Regardless, if Sherriff joe can prevent him from being on the ballot this time, it would speak volumes to the rest of the states. Right?
@Anonymous
LOL. That weboage with instructions forfiling a foreign deposition relates to incoming requests TO Arizona FROM another state. Clue: the citatin to ARCP 30(h). BTW that is a CIVIL rule, not criminal rule. Is Joey planning to litigate his posse investigation as a civil matter?
Try again.
@Anonymous
Or were you contemplating they would serve the Hawaii Kingdom?
Hey Fogbum, A Letter Rogatory is NOT only used in international law, but also between US states.
"INTERSTATE DEPOSITION SUBPOENA SERVICE
Compelling an Out-Of-State Witness to Give Testimony or Produce
Records at a Deposition for Use in a Foreign Jurisdiction"
...
"A Letter Rogatory, when used in this context, is a formal written request from the trial court where the matter is pending directed to the court having jurisdiction over the non-party witness requesting the latter court's assistance in having a subpoena issued, and a deposition taken."
http://interstatedeposition.com/overview.pdf
And
"...Letters rogatory can be sent to a court in a sister state OR to a court or judge in a foreign country. Granting the request, again, is a matter of comity between courts."
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Letters+rogatory
From another FogBum : A letter rogatory is a request, not a command. So what does Arizona do if Hawaii tells it to take a hike?"
No one said it was a command FogBum.
@Anonymous
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
Legal beagle RS thinks Hawaii is a foreign nation. Letters rogatory, LOL.
FogBum clown, see the post right above this one for the correct answer.
@Charlene
Whose name can appear on the ballot in Arizona is a statewide matter not a county matter and Governor Brewer vetoed the presidential candidates must show birth certificates bill.
It is still the Arizona Secretary of State's call (as the Chief Elections Official) as to who is legitimately on the ballot and who isn't.
In 2008, Obama personally signed an Arizona government form stating that he was a natural born citizen of the United States but nobody challenged that statement.
@RS
"A Letter Rogatory, when used in this context, is a formal written request from the trial court where the matter is pending directed to the court having jurisdiction over the non-party witness requesting the latter court's assistance in having a subpoena issued, and a deposition taken."
So what your saying is that the Arizona Court would have to go to the Hawaii Court and ask them to issue a subpoena to the DOH.
Which is exactly what was pointed out to you by anon @ 10:27 PM as follows:
___________________________________
@RS
Because Hawaii DOH is a non-party to the action, Arizonia would still have to go to Hawaii State Court and get a subpoena from them. An Arizonia subpoena is worthless in Hawaii.
October 12, 2011 10:27 PM
___________________________________
Maybe Arizona will draw Judge Rhonda Nishimura.
Which is exactly what was pointed out to you by anon @ 10:27 PM as follows:
It should never astound people the distortion by the OBots here in an attempt to mislead. You'll notice a number of Fogbum BS about "Letters rogatory" on this thread as I have pointed out.
I did not say that an out-of-state subpoena would NOT need the cooperation of the state court where the subpoena is being served to have the bite of enforcement. On the contrary OBots, I said this in the above post that should have given you guys a big clue:
"But hey, Hawaii not being legally compliant would not surprise me not one bit."
As in Hawaii willfully not supporting an active out-of-state criminal investigation or trial subpoena in an attempt of discovery of Obama state records.
Maybe Arizona will draw Judge Rhonda Nishimura.
Or maybe not, or maybe this judge will not ignore a criminal subpoena.
Letters rogatory are issued in CIVIL cases. You wanna try to find somethin' about CRIMINAL procedure since you are the visiting perfesser of law here?
@Anonymous
Dang, you silly OBots never give up spewing. The over all point dumb Fogblower is that I pointed out a tool that solicited support of a foreign jurisdiction.
If there are legal mechanisms for one state to request another state to support an out-of-state subpoena, one would easily and logically conclude that in the more serious matter of a criminal cases, there are reciprocal subpoena enforcement between the states.
Do you silly OBots have nothing to do but troll this thread? You don't have to answer. The question is rhetorical.
Now off to a football game.
If you fudgepackers were not worried about your messiah Odumba, get'n busted, you wouldn't be. The fact that you are tells me you are shacking in your high heals. LMAO!!!!
@RS
"If there are legal mechanisms for one state to request another state to support an out-of-state subpoena, one would easily and logically conclude that in the more serious matter of a criminal cases, there are reciprocal subpoena enforcement between the states."
This might help:
http://www.legalargument.net/outsubpoenas.html#idea
A sheriff doesn't have subpoena power. A sheriff can ask a court to issue a search warrant.
A search warrant is valid only in the state that issued it. There is no "reciprocal enforcement between the states" for search warrants.
A letter rogatory doesn't apply to search warrant. So Hawaii wouldn't be obligated to honor an Arizona search warrant, and Hawaii wouldn't be breaking any laws if it did ignore an out-of-state search warrant.
Of course, there's no indication that an Arizona court (or any other court) is going to issue a search warrant.
@Anonymous
Hey Anon@ 1:40 PM: Your hero Obama says seafood from the Gulf of Mexico is safe. Do yourself (and all of us) a favor and chow down to (our) heart's content.
"Of course, there's no indication that an Arizona court (or any other court) is going to issue a search warrant."
There's not even any indication that Joe Arpaio is taking birthers seriously. After all he said he would look into the "issue" within 5 years. Of course you are gullible enough to think that that reporter made that "5 year" quotation up and Joe Arpaio didn't say a word about being lied about by the people who interviewed him - Everything is a vast conspiracy to you birthers. It's really sad that you are so unintelligent to think the way you do.
@get r dun
You're right, I just can't stop "shacking!"(sic) ;-)
@Anonymous
A search warrant is valid only in the state that issued it. There is no "reciprocal enforcement between the states" for search warrants.
So Fogbum, there is no cooperation in criminal investigations or criminal trials in any circumstances between any states? You clowns are just silly.
A letter rogatory doesn't apply to search warrant. So Hawaii wouldn't be obligated to honor an Arizona search warrant,
I didn't say that Fogbum.
I said this to clarify.
"The over all point dumb Fogblower is that I pointed out a tool that solicited support of a foreign jurisdiction.
And furthermore,
"If there are legal mechanisms for one state to request another state to support an out-of-state subpoena, one would easily and logically conclude that in the more serious matter of a criminal cases, there are reciprocal subpoena enforcement between the states."
You dim Fogblowers are implying that there is NO cooperation or in anyway from state to state that supports foreign jurisdictions in criminal matters. Any simple cursory Internet search sure says otherwise.
So Hawaii wouldn't be obligated to honor an Arizona search warrant, and Hawaii wouldn't be breaking any laws if it did ignore an out-of-state search warrant.
Why do you clowns repeat and flush again and again?
Just look a few posts above this one where I answered again and again:
- - - - -
"I did not say that an out-of-state subpoena would NOT need the cooperation of the state court where the subpoena is being served to have the bite of enforcement. On the contrary OBots, I said this in the above post that should have given you guys a big clue:
"But hey, Hawaii not being legally compliant would not surprise me not one bit."
As in Hawaii willfully not supporting an active out-of-state criminal investigation or trial subpoena in an attempt of discovery of Obama state records. "
- - - -
Shall I say it a third or forth time in another way?
...You FogBums must have some stupid memo that says you have to post again and again so you'll get the last word even when you have been correctly retorted again and again. Is it you clowns think "you win" if you post last? LoL. Or maybe you guys are just stupid. Your life philosophy of Marxism is a big failure and stupid, and therefore, you must be stupid to following and support it. History has clearly shown that Communism doesn't work so why follow the stupidity? See Obama's policies for a huge clue.
Of course, there's no indication that an Arizona court (or any other court) is going to issue a search warrant
Of course clown that Sheriff Arpaio and his posse have not concluded their investigation, and have not presented their evidence to any DA or judge. You have no indication or knowledge what an AZ controlling authority will do.
Time to rinse and repeat again clown.
Why are birthers so confident that they'll make it past the courtroom just because it came from AZ? Subpoenas don't just magically open up file cabinets and vaults.
There is no Sheriff Joe. There is no sheriff anywhere. No controlling authority anywhere, at anytime is going to investigate. It's the opposite. They're working overtime to make sure there is no investigation and/or reporting on this issue. I've been monitoring this for close to three years. Experience tells me we are it.
@Dealio
There is no Sheriff Joe. There is no sheriff anywhere. No controlling authority anywhere, at anytime is going to investigate. It's the opposite.
There's no question that Arpaio has set up a team to look at the evidence and to see if Obama broke AZ laws. Now, whether Maricopa county will do anything about Obama in a timely manner is an open question.
And Anon @ 2:34 -
Why are birthers so confident that they'll make it past the courtroom just because it came from AZ?
Confident? Maybe about being Chicken Littles.
Subpoenas don't just magically open up file cabinets and vaults.
If this was about President Bush, OBots the world over would believe in 'magic subpoenas'.
"there are reciprocal subpoena enforcement between the states."
THERE IS NOTHING THAT OBLIGATES ONE STATE TO HONOR ANOTHER STATE'S SEARCH WARRANT. Any contrary suggestion is just plain wrong.
Do states cooperate with interstate criminal investigations? Sure, sometimes. But it is completely voluntary.
The idea that an Arizona search warrant will magically open doors in Hawaii is a pipe dream.
Of course, the idea that Arpaio is going to even ask for a search warrant is also a pipe dream.
THERE IS NOTHING THAT OBLIGATES ONE STATE TO HONOR ANOTHER STATE'S SEARCH WARRANT. Any contrary suggestion is just plain wrong.
Hey idiot read up the thread for content.
@Anonymous
THERE IS NOTHING THAT OBLIGATES ONE STATE TO HONOR ANOTHER STATE'S SEARCH WARRANT. Any contrary suggestion is just plain wrong.
So noway nohow OBot - so no cooperation? Think again.
Report on Reciprocal Subpoena Enforcement Laws"
19 states in this area of law do.
What is it with you FOgBums. You guys are gluttons to show your ignorance?
Oh what about this? I think I mention this a few post above.
"Uniform Foreign Depositions Act (UFDA)" where it states
"Briefly, the UFDA, enacted in 1920, and adopted by several states, reads at Section 1 as follows:
“Whenever any mandate, writ or commission is issued out of any court of record in any other state, territory, district or foreign jurisdiction, or whenever upon notice or agreement it is required to take the testimony of a witness or witnesses in this state, witnesses may be compelled to appear and testify in the same manner and by the same process and proceeding as my be employed for the purpose of taking testimony in proceedings pending in this state.”
http://interstatedeposition.com/overview.pdf
or this
OUT OF STATE SUBPOENA PROCEDURE for Wisconsin.
Are you the same OBum who keeps regurgitating the same nonsense on this thread, or is there a gaggle of clowns?
@Anonymous
And BTW, I never used the legal term "search warrant." That all came from you OBot so to obfuscate.
A "search warrant" is a written order, issued by a magistrate and directed to a law enforcement officer,commanding a search of specific premises.
Vs. a "subpeana" which is and which I have mentioned here.
"the usual writ for the summoning of witnesses or the submission of evidence, as records or documents, before a court or other deliberative body."
You do see the differences or do I have to point them out?
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/subpoena
Dude, Maricopa county isn't going to "do anything about" Obama. The moment they do, Obama thugs would murder everyone involved in AZ.
The Report on Reciprocal Subpoena Enforcement Laws is about SECURITIES LAW. Nowhere in this article (or elsewhere) is President Obama being accused of a securities violation.
AGAIN: SHERIFFS CAN'T ISSUES SUBPOENAS. So how out-of-state subpoenas are handled is TOTALLY IRRELEVANT.
@RS
Hawaii law only allows the release of a confidential birth record by court order. It does not allow release via subpoena.
The law says: "an order of a court of competent jurisdiction."
Do you really think that the left wing Democrat administration of Neil Abercrombie and his left wing Democrat Attorney General, David Louie is going to cooperate with a Maricopa County, Arizona subpoena?
It is a true privilege each time I visit here to read RS' pointed legal analyses and demonstration of critical thinking skills.
RS, with your obvious grasp of the law and how to present the evidence and facts, you should join Orly on the front lines and file a pro se lawsuit... Attack from more than one front.
I think RS should attend William Howard Taft University School of Law. S/He has demonstrated the set of skills that characterize the graduates of that distinguished institution.
The lack of critical thinking skills show that OBOTS do not get it.
This has gone beyond a Long form or Short form birth certificate or certification of birth.
This has escalated into class warfare.
EVERYTHING obama/sotoero is off limits.
Even if he were legitimate (which he is NOT), why after 3 years in the white house do we still know NOTHING about this man's background?
Disregard the fact that Obama is a criminal.
Just go with the suposition that Obama is the real deal, Why hide everything?
Seriously people, does that not strike you as strange?
Since you are so proud of Obama (for whatever reason) why can't you get any facts about this historical failure (I mean figure)?
You have no tangible proof of who he is, where he got his education, what he did between the years from (supposed) college till the Illinois legislature, and all the records there have disapeared (That has NEVER happened to ANYONE before or since), No medical records, NOTHING.
Remember when Bush (or Cheney) had a benign tumor removed, there is always something somewhere. Not for Obama.
When was he married? When were the kids born? why are there not memorials to Obama...
You obots are seriously deluded, if as you say Obama is legit, where is his LIFE?
Now, that doubt has been planted in your minds, I hope that you are smart enough to think and can start to see that protecting the Constitution is a far better goal than protecting Obama the Usurper.
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