Attorney and Georgia State Representative Mark Hatfield
Files Notice to Produce Against Obama in Georgia Ballot Challenge
Attorney Mark Hatfield on behalf of Carl Swensson and Kevin Powell filed a notice to produce records against Obama in the Georgia Ballot Challenge. Attorney Hatfield also filed a motion for determination of placement of burden of proof in the challenge. Also Judge Malihi issued an order today related to the motion for determination which is linked below. All 3 new filings linked below.
From the Notice to Produce:
Pursuant to OSAH Rule 616-1-2-.19, Defendant Barack Obama is hereby notified to be and appear before the Georgia Office of State Administrative Hearings, the Honorable Michael M. Malihi presiding, at the Fulton County Justice Center Building, 161 Pryor Street, Courtroom G-40, Atalanta, Georgia on January 26, 2012 at 9:00 a.m., and to bring with him into said Court the following items to be used as evidence by the Plaintiffs in the above-styled case:
(a) One (1) of the two (2) original certified copies of Defendant Barack Obama's ("long form") Certificate of Live Birth as referenced in the four (4) pages of Exhibit "A" attached;
(b) All medical, religious, administrative, or other records of or related to Defendant Barack Obama's birth;
(c) Any and all United States Passports, passport applications, and passport-related records for Defendant Barack Obama;
(d) Any and all passport, passport applications, and passport-related records for Defendant Barack Obama from any country, nation, or sovereignty;
(e) Any and all college and university admission information, both undergraduate and postgraduate, for Defendant Barack Obama, including, but not limited to, admission applications; letters of recommendation; school transcripts; financial aid applications; scholarship applications; and any and all correspondence awarding admission, financial aid, scholarships, or the like;
(f) Any and all applications and accompanying materials submitted by or for Defendant Barack Obama to the State Bar of Illinois, the State Supreme Court of Illinois, the Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois, and any other similar entity regulating the admission to the practice of law;
(g) Any and all other documents, materials, and papers having any relation to the subject of the birthplace, citizenship, denizenship, and national origin of Defendant Barack Obama;
(h) Any and all other documents, materials, and papers having any relation to the subject of the birthplace, citizenship, denizenship, and national origin of Defendant's father, Barack Obama Sr.
(i) All correspondence between Defendant Barack Obama and any other person, firm, political party, or entity discussing Defendant's status vel non as a natural born Citizen pursuant to Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the United States Constitution.
Defendant will note that the preceding items are requested hereby, whether they pertain to Defendant under his name Barack Obama or any other name, including but not limited to Barack Hussein Obama II; Barry Soetoro; Barry Soebarkah; Barry Obama, or the like.
See the complete Notice to Produce here.
READ BOTH NEW FILINGS AND JUDGE MALIHI'S ORDER HERE: http://www.art2superpac.com/georgiaballot.html
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44 comments:
Excellent second front by the Hatfield Legal Team to help Orly Taitz out.
You need to fix the link so we know what the judge ruled. This is critical.
link has error 404
Whoa, Georgia is beginning to kick some serious Obama butt. GO GEORGIA! WHOO HOO!!
It might also be helpful if Orly Taitz and Vin Irion submit motions for determination as well.
Vin Irion needs to submit a motion to produce. This would force Obama's lawyer to deal with issue on 3 legal fronts.
So he's backing away from his Vattel/two-citizen parent theory. Otherwise, he would not be asking for these.
He must be concerned that his Minor v. Happersett argument is not going to fly. LOL.
He shold have asked for the Social Security number, although it should be covered under "other".
I thought Hatfield only cared about the Minor v. Happersett and not the BC and other stuff.
What happened to that?
Maybe they read the comments of Associate Professor J. Gordon Hylton:
"To cite Minor v. Happersett as the definitive statement of the meaning of the phrase “natural born citizen” is to exhibit an unfortunate lack of understanding of the Supreme Court’s 1874 decision in that case."
Time to go to Plan B.
Too late. Hatfield already stipulated to the fact of birth in Hawaii on Aug 4, 1961 and that Obama has been a resident in the U.S. for a minimum of 14 years.
That makes this Notice irrelevant to his claim.
Great job!. The end of this website is near as we will get a copy of the documents. Impeachment will soon follow.
@Anonymous @ 7:08
The judge has not ruled anything. This is just a wish list.
Watch for a motion for protective order. That's what the judge will rule on.
I think it was the Van Irion case that was ONLY concerned with Minor v. Happersett and not "the BC and other stuff"
Likewise, I think it was Van Irion that stipulated to the fact of birth in Hawaii on Aug 4, 1961...which would therefore not make this notice "irrelevant to his claim".
Further, what is J. Gordon Hylton an Associate Professor of and where? And let's hear his argument as to why. I can show you Constitutional scholars who agree that parental citizenship is a requirement.
We'll stick with Plan A...thanks though.
@Anonymous
"So he's backing away from his Vattel/two-citizen parent theory."
You Obots wish!
"Further, what is J. Gordon Hylton an Associate Professor of and where? And let's hear his argument as to why. I can show you Constitutional scholars who agree that parental citizenship is a requirement."
Herb Titus immediately comes to mind.
Dumb OBots. It should be super easy for Obama just to produce the documents like everyone else does in the world. So come now OBots. LoL. So tell everyone your stupid and laughable excuses you make for Obama.
Do you really believe all of that stuff will be produced? How much of that stuff is germane to Obama's eligibility to be on the ballot?
Here's something you haven't said: The law in GA give s the DNC the right to just produce the names of it's candidates. Obama, by law, doesn't even have to bring his BC to the hearing, much less any of his other records.
On page 3 of Motion to Quash, Defendant says,"Thus, OSAH rules specify that subpoenas must be served within the State of Georgia. Ga. Comp. R. & Regs. r. 616-1-2-.19(5) (“A subpoena may be served at any place within Georgia….”)
The word "may" is subject to the statutes full context and circumstances.
http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/16462/does-should-imply-an-unquestionable-command
The word may is used to indicate a course of action permissible within the limits of the standard (may equals is permitted).
It does not mean, "must" or "can only", etc...or only "one" course of action such as within the State of Georgia. There are remedies for subpoena's to be served "outside" of Georgia as well. DS
Justice Department blinks in battle against Sheriff Joe
Agency offers to talk before going to court
All you Obots that counted on the Commies in AZ taking down Sheriff Joe are in for a rude awakening.
Check out the story here:
http://www.wnd.com/2012/01/justice-department-blinks-in-battle-against-sheriff-joe/
some people want to see muchelles papers bc and ss card and where are the papers on the children in the whitehouse...dna tests anyone ? there are so many lies in the mix
Where are the posts from the "Real Attorney"??? Did he drop out? Worst case scenario is that Obama will refuse to get on the Georgia Ballot. Not like he needed them anyways. Best case scenario is that Obama Obot supporters realize the reasons he refuses to produce documents that they claim already have been proven.
If already proven and produced, then there should be absolutely no problem with Obama complying with Georgia's request.
But he will not.... Why not?
Obama's Attorney can certainly claim that Hawaii officials made public announcements on TV and Radio of he said, she said, was told by another party, that said, he said, she said....
Wait, that's called hearsay....
@RS
Obama's attorney WILL offer the short form COLB, then ask the ALJ to take notice of the well known fact that Obama has been a resident in the U.S. for at least the last 14 years. Then he rest his case. Hatfield listed no witness to dispute the authenticity of the COLB so he is stuck making his Vattel argument. O's attorney gets to offer rebuttal then that hearing is done.
The media reports that O produced a BC in court, the Dems will get a lot of mileage by hanging this on the Republicans, and the judge will find that O is eligible.
There is a God!
What silliness. It's standard English.
The statute restricts serving of an OSAH subpoena to within the state of Georgia, but doesn't restrict where in Georgia it may be served.
"Subpoenas must be served within the State of Georgia" ... "A subpoena may be served at any place within Georgia".
Is it possible that the courts could receive some of these records through a subpoena of the schools and universities that Obama attended? Why couldn't they be compelled to present their records through subpoena of an active case?
I'm not sure if it's me who's wrong, but I think a motion to produce cannot request the presence of a person.
OSAH 616-1-2-.19 (7) clearly says:
"A party may serve a notice to produce in order to compel production of documents or
objects in the possession, custody, or control of another party in lieu of serving a subpoena under this Rule. "
See? "Production of documents or objects". Not "to be and appear before".
Is this attorney pulling an Orly and trying to claim Obama is an "object" covered under this statute?
@Anonymous
January 19, 2012 7:44 PM
"Stipulated"?? So what...anybody can stipulate anything....proves nothing without the discovery to back up the "stipulations". So now an atty can define Obama's hidden history for him? Ha!
If Obama's lawyer tries to bring the short-form COLB, Hatfield can certainly object stating the Obama does have the long-form BC in possession but is refusing to produce it and instead wants to produce the short-form COLB. This should puncture the prima facia evidence of the COLB because of the existance of the long-form BC and Obama's willful decision to hold it back.
@Anonymous
"Watch for a motion for protective order. That's what the judge will rule on."
So, if Judge Mahili only says, 'bring just the birth certificate.' Does that mean he buys the birth in the US is all that is needed?
Should have included the names Bari Shabazz and Harrison Bounel.
The Governor of Ga. wants Oscrammer to fess up
also.
@RS
Barack Obama, nor anyone else in America, is in possession of his/their ORIGINAL birth certificate. Those original documents are the property of the state in which a person was born.
Obama cannot produce his original birth certificate because he doesn't own it, the state of Hawaii owns it.
Under Hawaii law, only a certified copy can be released.
It's the same in every other state as well...copies only.
@Anonymous
"Great job!. The end of this website is near as we will get a copy of the documents. Impeachment will soon follow.
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It would take 20 Democrat Senators to remove Obama by impeachment (you need 67 votes in the Senate).
I don't think getting 20 Democrats to go along is possible.
Defeast of Obama at the polls is the best option
This sounds like the movie "A few good Men" and obama is Col. Jessup. and it's obama who can't handle the TRUTH.
My Prayers are with all concerned, You have the reigns in this, don't let go.
the motion to quash did not seek to quash the production of documents - which would be a normal element. There are portions of the request that seek information/documents protected by attorney client privilege - which raises question as to when under Georgia rules - Obama's attorney must provide written objection to items requested to be produced. is the 1/26 hearing an evidentiary hearing? w/testimony? or status hearing? What about the subpeona from the state of Georgia on the Hawaiian officials? what is its status? would think that might push the matter into federal court..maybe not.
when obama goes down next we are coming for you commie obots my suggestion is you pack your shit and get before we come for you it wont be nice when we do. and you can bank on it happening.
It would take 20 Democrat Senators to remove Obama by impeachment (you need 67 votes in the Senate).
I don't think getting 20 Democrats to go along is possible.
Defeast of Obama at the polls is the best option
WRONG! illegal means just that illegal no need to impeach him all it takes is to arrest him.
i smell obamas goose cooking....
As another plaintiff in the Georgia case, I would have suggested that the defendant be instructed to bring any and all items of evidence that would be probative to the findings of the court.
ex animo
davidfarrar
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Emergency-request-for-letters-rogatory1.pdf
someone is working overtime ?
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Emergency-request-for-letters-rogatory1.pdf
someone is working overtime
@ballpoint
Good of Orly to start listening to the criticism from here and elsewhere telling her she didn't follow proper rules regarding subpoenas and people outside of the state the case is in.
Too bad, again, she filed the request with the wrong venue.
i was born in 1950 in RI i have mine. my wife born in RI cost $27 so we could get a copy of the copy so she could get her driver lic here in FL along with her marage lic her #SS card what would happen if he lived here ?
What is realy so bad about this is the News Media's not reporting this. This should be making HEADLINES all across AMERICA & THE WORLD!!! But Ga is about the 6th state to bring charges against Obama and the Media does not even report it. Please GOD answer our prayers and let this be obama's last year in office! AMEN!!!
The real sad part about this is the News Media and their reluctance to publish this or report it! This should be making HEADLINES all over AMERICA & THE whole WORLD!!!! If this was about a REPUBLICAN it would be!!I just Pray that GOD answers all prayers & let this be obama's last year in office! AMEN!!!
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