Obama's Eligibility And Georgia Court Hearing
Neil B. Turner @ Citizens for the Constitution
Patriots;
BREAKING: The Roger Hedgecock Show; 6:00 – 9:00 pm EST (www.RodgerHedgecock.com) 877-847-6437 (January 23, 2012)
At ~ 4:20 pm PST (hour 2), Roger began talking about how we know nothing about Obama; no one knew him at Columbia (e.g. George Stephanopoulos & Wayne Allyn Root – supposed classmates); etc. etc., and why doesn’t the media ask these questions?
Here’s the replay of Hour 2:
(start at 18:55) · · · Play mp3 Roger Hedgecock 01-23-12 H2 (right-click and save as)
I called in and told the screener that I wanted to answer Roger’s question of why there were no records of Obama at Columbia. I was put on at 5:05 pm PST. (at the beginning of hour 3) (5:00 – 12:00 minutes of the broadcast)
Below I will summarize what I covered:
1. I participated in research that discovered Obama never attended Columbia, and heard the testimony of Wayne Allyn Root saying that he never attended school there with him.
2. I told Roger: You will have the answer to all your questions at a hearing in an Atlanta, GA courthouse, on Thursday, 26 January (‘I’ve heard about that’, said Roger, ‘but I don’t think it’s going anywhere’), where Judge Malihi has subpoenaed all those missing records. There will be 3 cases heard, telling us why there are no records (we don’t need Obama to be there), and determining whether a private individual (not ‘President’) named Obama should have his name on the GA Ballot as a candidate for the Office of President: ‘Article II says that ‘no person, except a natural born Citizen,… shall be eligible for the Office of President’.
3. (Roger then said we can be pretty sure that he was born in Hawaii, because they would not have put the announcement in the newspapers in anticipation of his running for president 48 years later).
‘Not so’, said I. The announcement that was published (if it was in fact actually published) in 2 newspapers were exactly the same, so they came from one ‘report’.
Also, you must be aware that someone born anywhere in the world could get an Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth – simply by someone who lived in Hawaii reporting a birth (anywhere in the world). Imagine, if you will, a proud grandma being told by her daughter that she just gave birth to a son (e.g. in Kenya). That would not be a ‘future president’ conspiracy, it would simply be a proud grandma announcing the birth of her new grandson. The address of the announcement was the grandmother’s address.
4. (Roger asked where can we get information on the live streaming of the Court Hearing?).
Go to www.TPATH.org for links and full details.
5. (Roger asked ‘do you have a website’?).
Go to www.ObamaBallotChallenge.com.
Thanks you caller. (cut off phone line).
Roger: He sounded like he knew what he was talking about.
Here is the replay of Hour 3: (5:00 – 12:00 minutes of the broadcast)
· · · Play mp3 Roger Hedgecock 01-23-12 H3 (right-click and save as)
So the word is now out on national radio. Put it to use: make audio clips of Roger’s and my comments (or send it out with the links and the timing of Roger’s and my comments on the air); post it on your websites; and get folks to start calling in to Roger’s show. He sounds ready to ‘blow the whistle’ on the Greatest Fraud of the Centuries.
In Liberty and In Truth.
Neil B. Turner
Citizens for the Constitution
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66 comments:
The announcements were NOT for "grand-ma" or any other person.
They were standard "public-notice" of the filing of Certification of Live Birth, (on Aug. 4, 1960).
Most people should know that everything "recorded" with the County Recording Office's are PUBLIC NOTICED.
That has been verified, and also very obvious to anyone actually looking at the papers. On the same-page is also public-notice of wedding LICENSES. Now I acknowledge that actual weddings are often printed in newspapers, (indeed from notice from the actual wedded-couple), BUT, wedding LICENSES are not usually printed, BUT, they were in Hawaii at that time, by the same newspapers on the same page.
AND, as noted above, that "Certification of Live Birth" does not actually prove a birth in Hawaii, NOR THE DATE, since the info can (and does) come from someone in the family instead of the hospital. (were used for home-births or when "residents of Hawaii for ONE-YEAR" have a baby when out of state and want the birth recorded for future reference).
The key statement there is "residents of Hawaii for ONE-YEAR" ... it is notable that Obama's mother/family only moved to Hawaii in Aug. of 59, for Aug. 60 was the EARLIEST LEGAL DATE it could be filed.
My personal belief is that Obama's mother was already pregnant when they moved to Hawaii in Aug. 59, (putting his actual birth-date sometime in Jan or Feb (60).
Heard it live. Good job. Covered a lot, but could have mentioned that Barry's SS# fails e-verify.
pardon and pacify
Obama did go to Columbia, Jr + Sr year. I have a copy of the graduation program with the name 'Barack Hussein Obama.' Obama did not graduate with any honors. How, then did he get into Harvard?
I find it amazing that people want to see Mitt Romneys tax returns and Newts contract with Fannie Mar. HOWEVER Obama refuses to release ANY OF HIS RECORDS. I SAID ANY.... To those of you who refuse or don't follow what is going on in politics or the White House please consider Obama has not released any of his records. There are no class mates old girl friends, old teachers, old friends from the neighborhood .... Really who is this guy.
Its helpful to point out that the newspaper birth announcements listed the grandparent's actual address, giving common sense credence to the simple premise, that the Dunhams merely wanted to legitimize and/or give reasonable proof of US citizenship to their grandson, later to be known as Barry Soetero/aka Barack Obama. Dr. Corsi and others have documented proof of this address belonging to the grandparents, the parents of the fraud in chief never lived together at any time. And yet the propagandist media has never admitted this basic truth.
Chipping away at that great wall that has propped up the Swindler in Chief has been chipped away at diligently by many many patriots. Finally, the wall has cracked and humpty dumtpy will begin his great fall.
This exchange is quite revealing. I admit I don't know much about Hedgecock but he's not unlike many mainline talk show hosts. Still, after all this time, they don't even know the right questions to be asking. They're like parrots. Gibbering away repeating the same talking points now for 4+ years. For instance, the whole newspaper announcement thing "proving" Obama was born in Hawaii. Is it any wonder that inquiries into Barry's past have gone nowhere? This guy, Hedgecock, represents that "faction" of the "media" most likely to investigate and demand answers and frankly he sounds just as aloof and just as clueless as the rest of them. WTF, no one with any relationship to common sense thinks that the Framers meant there to be no distinction between a natural-born citizen and a bastardized anchor baby. All of this is inane silliness and absurdity redefined. With deft and efficacy that even Winston would be proud of they've changed the meaning of words.
And for the record, you Obot trolls, I don't see this case going anywhere in the end. At this point I just want to see a ruling on the merits. This country is already DOA. George Bush was every bit as dastardly and despicable as Obama is in almost every way. The difference being that he was at least constitutionally legit before he and Congress took a wrecking ball to our quality-of-life.
Obama's Sugar Daddy, Liar Soros, wants him to declare a POLICE STATE to keep him in office and bring down the economy FASTER TO KEEP UP WITH EUROPE!!
He is using the media for incitement!!
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/01/22/george-soros-on-the-coming-u-s-class-war.print.html
This guy has to go before NOVEMBER or there will be no election.
Some Senators have to take a walk to the White House and remove him.
I have not seen "any" original copy of the Obama birth announcements from the two newspapers. Nor, has anyone signed an affidavit stating the "ad" to be true. Perhaps, this is why Sheriff Joe Arpaio is requesting the original full roll of the microfiche records to be examined [if he can get it]
http://theobamafile.websitetoolbox.com/post/Now-there-is-an-Illionois-challenge-5676748
And now there's three challengers from Illinois too.
The "no one knew Obama at Columbia" mime is similar to the Tim Adams "Everyone in Hawaii Election Office knows there is no BC" both are offset by official sources. Tim Adams by Hawaii officials and Neil Turner by Columbia officials.
This is another dead end meant to waste energy and resources.
bari Shabazz or Barry Soetoro whichever you happen
to be------ your ass is grass and we the lawn mower.
Enjoy that jail cell sucker.
Why "no" comments on this ???
Last night I posted an explanation of the "announcements" and how they got into the paper. They were not placed by a "person", (mother / grandma etc.).
They were automatic "public-notice" of filings at the County Recording Office. Newspapers have an option to print any county filings.
It only proves that something, (probably the CertificaTION of Live Birth) was recorded on Aug. 4, 1960.
But that does not prove he was born in Hawaii since they were used for recording of births to Hawaii residents (for a period of at least ONE-YEAR) when they were out of state/country, (and for "home" births instead of a hospital).
This is further evidenced by the fact that on the SAME-PAGE, there is also listed wedding LICENSES. Now I admit that actual "weddings" are often submitted to newspapers to publish, (by the parties), but NOT wedding LICENSES. But wedding licenses are indeed "public-notice" and newspapers have an option to print them if they want, and they did on the SAME-PAGE as the birth-death public-notice announcements.
NOTE: that the filing of a CertificaTION (of live birth) also does not prove his DATE of birth since the only requirement for such filing is that the relative be a "resident of Hawaii for at least ONE-YEAR". No actual proof of a date-of-birth is required and Aug-60 was the earliest date it could be filed since Obama's mother/family only moved to Hawaii in Aug-59.
@waycoolsnoopy
waycoolsnoopy, I can tell you Hedgecock is based out of San Diego, CA, where he was once mayor of that city. He was one of Limbaugh's fill-in hosts.
Hedgecock also writes columns for WND. His program is syndicated by Radio America. But you can also contact him by mail at:
The Roger Hedgecock Show
c/o KFMB Stations
7677 Engineer Road
San Diego, CA 92111
Soetoro has to be arrested during, or immediately after, the hearing. It's over.
@bobsbox
Thanks for that info. I knew I remembered hearing him filling in for Rush way back when; I haven't listened regularly to Rush's show for several years now ever since it became apparent to me that Rush is more of a globalist and less of a constitutionalist. And his comments yesterday most certainly confirmed my conclusion with Rush stating he approved of the TSA's unlawful detention of Rand Paul.
Anyway, as far as Hedgecock goes...is it just me or is anyone else thinking that a conservative who writes columns for WND should be a virtural "rocket scientist" on all things eligibility?
"Just saying..." (I hate quoting Beck);)
So Dealio,
Do tell, arrested, who, by whom and on which grounds will he be arrested ..?
First, the man isn't going to be there, this lawyer, Jablonski will be there, so no one to arrest.
You are aware that this is a hearing, that the judge can only sends a suggestion to the SoS who can act or ignore as he see's fit. No findings of fact, no orders, no sanctions, no arrest powers.
The recommendation is either yes or no, that's it. Nothing else will be up for discussion.
Lets suppose for one moment that the judge does make a recommendation to the SoS to strike Obama from the Democratic Primary ballot and the SoS agrees and the Democratic party don't appeal to the state Supreme Court. What next.....
Well, actually, not much.
There is only one person on the Democratic Party list, if Obama is struck, the GA delegates simply, at the DP convention, vote their votes for who ever they please...which since the only delegate is Obama will be.....
Now, when the actual election happens, Orly could try and redo the whole thing all over again. Problem is a state can't dictate who is on a federal ballot.
So as opposed to revelling in lurid fantasy, why not get out of the house and try and ensure that the man doesn't get enough votes to be President
ITS LONG PAST TIME THIS CON MAN WAS PUT IN JAIL OR SENT TO HELL FOR HIS CRIMES. AND ALL THE CONGRESSMEN AND SENATORS WHO LIED TO COVER FOR HIS ILLEGAL ASS NEED TO BE ARRESTED TOO. DO YOU HEAR THIS SENATOR KYL AND MCCAIN? YOU BOTH NEED TO SPEND YOUR RETIREMENT IN FEDERAL PRISON. ITS TIME FOR US REAL AMERICANS TO STAND UP TO THESE LYING COWARDS.
I am a retired peace officer. When I graduated from college and was applying for an entry level position with various departments, along with every application certified copies of my long form birth certificate (COLBs were not accepted), certified copies of my high school and college transcripts, allow them to inspect my passport and declare all outside nations I had visited. All this was for an entry level security position. He ran for president, the top position in the nation, and never provided anyone with any documentation. Yes, I agree with the above comments: where there is smoke, there is fire. I have never accepted him as my president because of it.
To me, more important than the eligibility issue, is the fact that the Democratic Party conspired to allow this to happen as shown by the two differing nomination documents signed by Pelosi after the 2008 primaries. A citizen should NEVER have to ask themselves or anyone else if a candidate is eligible for that office. The Secretary of State, in each state, should be responsible for screening candidates to ensure eligibility before they are ever allowed on the ballot. In 2008, to my horror, this is not done. In fact all that is needed is a signed statement from any person stating that they are eligible. No background checks are done, and information is not verified. While the office of the president is a federal position, it is the states that control the ballots. Everyone needs to demand that their Secretary of State do their job and confirm the eligibility of candidates BEFORE they are allowed to be placed on the ballots.
1:30 PM, Thanks, but not until I see Soetoro and co. arrested would I even consider the election. As far as who will do the arresting, we will. At some point, it will be out of the courts hands, and into ours. Soetoro loses, no matter what. Those bastards in Washington could very well be shaking in their boots. There is no way to diffuse the issue and/or the situation broiling.
Oh fun, go on Dealio, try and "arrest" a sitting President and see just how far you get.
Unless of course you're one of those like Swannsen who talks a ig talk then gets others, like Darren Huff to take the fall.
@Dealio
The hearing on Thursday is administrative. It is not a criminal trial. The only outcome of the hearing is a recommendation by the Administrative Law Judge to the Georgia Secretary of State.
The Secretary of State then has the option of accepting the recommendation or rejecting it.
The "no one knew Obama at Columbia" mime is similar to the Tim Adams "Everyone in Hawaii Election Office knows there is no BC" both are offset by official sources. Tim Adams by Hawaii officials and Neil Turner by Columbia officials.
This is another dead end meant to waste energy and resources.
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So are you saying that with no proof from Columbia, you believe what they say?
With no proof from Adams, you don't?
This is the problem!
I find it helpful that the announcement listed Obama's grandparents address....
<<<<wrong, no they did not.
Why waste alot of time talking about the COLB. IT'S A FAKE!! Mom and G-ma never got one. If they did, there would be an original or one could obtain a legitimate copy. There never was one. He didn't need one until the ran for president. Photoshop didn't exist in the 60s. He probably didn't become a citizen until he went to Occidental (if he ever went there) or until he married Michelle.
Dealio,
You are funny. That is why I love this site. The only way anyone in Washington is "shaking in their boots" is because of the weather, certainly not birthers and certainly not Dealio.
Fogbow releases the Birther Timeline, still a work in progress but nearing completion.
Among other things, it shows that NOBODY brought up the fake imaginary "two citizen parents" rule until AFTER the election. Before the election, everybody knew what all 9 judges (1 lower court, 3 appellate judges and 5 Indiana Supreme Court judges) who ruled in the Ankeny case said: If he was born here, his father's citizenship is IRRELEVANT.
Why did you wait until AFTER the election to make up the fake imaginary "two citizen parents" rule, birthers?
Dealio: You and your conservative brethren won't get close to Obama. You will be dead before you even get within 100 yards of him, if you plan on an illegal citizens arrest.
@Anonymous
"I have never accepted him as my president because of it."
Based on what you wrote you have never accepted anyone as President since no President has ever submitted the info required of you.
AS for SoS vetting the candidates, in most states they are not required to do any investigation. If you want changed then contact your state legislatures and have them change the laws.
ORYR: I really enjoy reading this blog, and even though there are a lot of Obot aholes, it's still some fun. But I have to say, these 'Anonymous' monikers are simply out of control. For those that represent Obots, they can bite me. But, for those that do not, it is impossible to separate who is saying what because there are so many of them. If I were you - no more Anonymous posts - make 'em change their names so we have an idea of who's on first. I really want to be able to easily identify the Obots quickly so I can trash their worthless asses.
Thanks.
@waycoolsnoopy
waycool...no problem.
Obama is on a roll at his state of the union! he's going to be shoo in for re-election.
By the way, just to let you in on a little secret -- None of us obots has any worry what so ever that any of your irrelevant legal actions will amount to anything. Neither will your empty threats of violent action holds any water. Your threats are as empty as your brains.
Fulton County yanked back its permission to use a courtroom there. The court administrator does not want a media circus in such a dignified setting.
Back to a small hearing room at the OSAH offices.
Way to go, birthers!
Thanks Paul. A laugh now and then can't hurt. Still, this is obviously a very serious situation. This is as big as it gets. 4:07 PM, After evidence is heard, commonsense dictates it makes absolute no sense what-so-ever to continue this illegal regime one moment longer. It could very well get ugly. I hope not.
@Anonymous
@ Anon 4:44 p.m.
Obama is on a roll at his state of the union! he's going to be shoo in for re-election.
Can you spell f-u-c-k y-o-u? You have lots of hot air, but no balls Obot Asshole. You support a lying low life skunk, which makes you the same. Try some truth for a change buttwipe. Or....do you want to bring it - nope - no balls.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/01/24/pelosi_on_a_gingrich_presidency_that_will_never_happen.html
Did you see this article on Drudge...Pelosi will let fly some secret she knows about Gingrich if he gets the nomination. And it will guarantee he won't be president.
I think many Republicans are keeping what they know to themselves to protect their own skins. Most of these people are going to end up millionaires - something they could have never done otherwise. This is their ticket to the lottery - why jeopardize that?
The thing about Gingrich though...if he gets attacked like that, I think he'll let loose with the truth about Obama. Because I think Gingrich knows it all. If Wayne Madsen can get all this stuff on the real Obama, certainly Gingrich could. Gingrich is a Washington insider. He's got connections. He knows the spies. He knows how the CIA works. Why do you think Fox News pays him big bucks to analyze politics? He knows exactly how the games are played. But he is being blackmailed right now, Pelosi just said so.
This issue is not going away and I think it's a trump card in the hands of someone bold enough to gp after it with gusto - like Gingrich. Don't think the politicians didn't see Trump go to No. 1 in the polls just based on this issue alone. It wasn't his stance on China. If Gingrich gets the nomination and starts seeing his ship go down because of some scandal - look out.
Black Belt said...[Reply]
@Anonymous
@ Anon 4:44 p.m.
Obama is on a roll at his state of the union! he's going to be shoo in for re-election.
Can you spell f-u-c-k y-o-u? You have lots of hot air, but no balls Obot Asshole. You support a lying low life skunk, which makes you the same. Try some truth for a change buttwipe. Or....do you want to bring it - nope - no balls.
Poor Black belt, he be a bit upset..
Dealio said...[Reply]
Thanks Paul. A laugh now and then can't hurt. Still, this is obviously a very serious situation. This is as big as it gets. 4:07 PM, After evidence is heard, commonsense dictates it makes absolute no sense what-so-ever to continue this illegal regime one moment longer. It could very well get ugly. I hope not.
Nothing is going to happen but Obama ending up on all 50 ballots..so no need to worry.
Fogboy lost his package in a tragic revolving door accident.
So if 0, 1 or 2 refers to the number of US Citizen parents a US Citizen can have, and they can either be born here or abroad...here are all the possible US Citizen permutations:
0,abroad=naturalized by oath
0,here born subject to jurisdiction (former slaves)=naturalized at birth
1,here=
2,abroad=
BUT
2, here = a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN
So really fogfag, is saying a
0,here is more qualified to be president than a 2,abroad.
Fogfag should ask Obama about that one, eh fogfag? Obama in SR511 said that 2,here is a NBC ("here" being a US military base).
If Obama said a 2,here is a natural born citizen, why didn't he just say McCain was a NBC by being born on a military base alone?
If a "here" (jus soli only) baby is born of 2 Mexican parents for example, they are only a Mexican, and this is because they are not born subject to jurisdiction of the USA per the 1868 intent of the 14th amendment (former slaves born without a country). They are Mexicans.
Fogfag, what is the difference between a US Citizen and a Natural Born Citizen then? Eh dumbshit?
You can't say that Natural Born Citizens are just born here, since so are US Citizens. So what's the difference, eh retard?
It's fitting that fog-former-boy is a florist, the floral scent takes the edge off that anal scat scent he carries around, like all obots.
What's the difference between a US Citizen and a Natural Born Citizen if both can be born in the USA?
eh dumbots?
UOTUS (usurper) reads TOTUS and America says STFU
Man read the blogs, America loathes akaObama
Two good posts today. Going to be interesting on Thurs. Then after Sheriff Joe Arpaio makes his report.
akaObama's Poll Approval Rating Among Independents Falls To 31%…
http://dailykos.com/weeklypolling/2012/1/19
Daily Kos! Fagbow lives there!
Terri, You very well could be right. Up until now, all case outcomes against Soetoro have been pre-determined by corrupted courts. The election, in turn, would also be pre-determined. Everything is a lie. We're tasked, at this time, with having to right the record. Being American, I'm sure thats what you want too.
Why does the Constitution differentiate between a US Citizen and a Natural Born Citizen in Article I vs. Article II, eh dumbots?
How could Obama have possibly passed any kind of security background check? With terrorist friends like Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn, lunatic racist, America hating preachers like Rev. Wright, crooks like Tony Rezco, mentors like Communist Frank Marshall Davis, etc., etc., etc., how could Obama possibly pass even the most basic security check?
I believe the answer is, he was never given any sort of high level check, and likely not even one that would allow him to coach little league.
What an insult to the military it is having Barry pretending to be commander-in-chief.
@fogboy's severed package
Well, because since the passage of the 14th Amendment in 1868, there is no difference in the law between a "Citizen of the United States at birth" (the current term in the US Code) and a "natural born citizen."
There are only two classifications of US citizens: Born and Naturalized. There is no difference between a born citizen and a natural born citizen.
Just ask Chief Justice John Roberts.
@fogboy's severed package
That's easy.
Senators and Representatives = Natural born and naturalized citizens.
Preseident = natural born citizens only.
The Fourteenth Amendment did not amend Article II in no way, shape, or form.
John Doe, you are correct, unbelievable as it is CIA and FBI can not investigate, or at least report an ivestigation. I read the reason being that the *people* elect and all the bullshit that involves and ultimately the president was never vetted. Really hard to believe, but obviously there is something to it. Had he been screend or vetted he would not even pass the screen to be a pooper scooper anywhere in Government. Yet he does have the football code. Gotta scratch my head somemore.
I have no clue what this means , but I found it while looking at Congressional Records. The term Natural Born Citizen is used. Just found it interesting published in 2009.
OK don't know whatthis means, but it is interesting. Serching Congressional Records I came across this. They did not say oldest citizen, they use NBC to describe her. Wonder why?
HON. CHRISTOPHER JOHN LEE
OF NEW YORK
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Tuesday, October 6, 2009
•Mr. LEE of New York. Madam Speaker, I rise today to recognize Williamsville, New York resident Olivia Patricia Thomas, who recently became the oldest living naturalborn United States citizen .
•Born on June 29, 1895, Olivia, or Pat as she prefers to be called, recently celebrated her 114th birthday with family and friends. Originally from Iowa, Pat met her late husband Frederick in grade school in 1923, and the couple then moved to Buffalo in 1946 when Frederick began teaching engineering at the University at Buffalo. snip
"How could Obama have possibly passed any kind of security background check? With terrorist friends like Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn, lunatic racist, America hating preachers like Rev. Wright, crooks like Tony Rezco, mentors like Communist Frank Marshall Davis, etc., etc., etc., how could Obama possibly pass even the most basic security check?"
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The fact is, contrary to popular belief, there is no "security check". Bill Clinton could not have passed one either, and neither could half of his staff. Clinton was filmed in trees during VietNam demonstrations with sign's "Hell No - We Won't Go". And he (secretly) went to RUSSIA during time of conflict with them, (and LIED about it during the campaign).
IS there a "common-denominator" between Obama and Clinton ???
OH YEAH ... they are both DEMOCRATS.
@Anonymous
Anony 8:42
Compare a US Citizen vs. a Natural Born Citizen, both born here...
a 1-here is a naturalized at birth by statute and a 2-here is not naturalized at birth by statute since they are natural born citizens
but both are US Citizens
It's already in the Const, SCOTU, Acts and Laws
Note: The ONLY permutation omitted from the naturalized at birth statutes is 2 US Citizen parents born on US Soil, because NBCs are never statutory.
Even though obots lie about 1401-1 0-here born subject to jurisdiction to mean everyone born here is a statutory US Citizen (when it's based on the 14th written in 1868 to give former slaves citizenship), it wouldn't even make any logical sense to say
0-here is a naturalized-at-birth-statutory-US-Citizen NABSUSC then say that
1-here is NABSUSC
2-abroad is NABSUSC
if 0-here is NABSUSC by their interpretation (everyone, even foreign parent born babies), there's no point so saying 1-here is NABSUSC (i.e. now we're requiring 1 US Citizen parent) since the obots lie would have already included them as NABSUSC since 0 US citizen parents are required (by their misinterpretation)....FURTHER there would be no reason to say 0-here is NABSUSC and 1-here is NABSUSC, but so why omit 2-here as NABSUSC?
Then obots say foreign-parent anchor babies are more fit to be president than 2 US Citizen parents who have a baby abroad...think about that...it's ridiculous
So the real question is
WHY DO THE NATURALIZED AT BIRTH STATUTORY US CITIZEN LAWS
OMIT 2 US CITIZEN PARENTS BORN ON US SOIL?
Answer: because they are natural born citizens
So the difference between US Citizen in Article I is that that includes all NABSUSC, NSUSC and NBC, the only permutation not mentioned.
Natural Born Citizen is exactly what a statutory naturalized citizen is not.
2 US Citizen parents born on US soil
The Constitution does not define the meaning of "natural born Citizen." The U.S.
Supreme Court gives meaning to terms that are not expressly defined in the Constitution by
looking to the context in which those terms are used; to statutes enacted by the First Congress,
Marsh v. Chambers, 463 U.S. 783, 790-91 (1983); and to the common law at the time of the
Founding. United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 655 (1898). These sources all confirm
that the phrase "natural born" includes both birth abroad to parents who were citizens, and birth within a nation's territory and allegiance.
More good news:
The Current INS Officially Recognizes A Delineation Between Natural-Born and Native-Born.
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2012/01/25/the-current-ins-officially-recognizes-a-delineation-between-natural-born-and-native-born/#wpl-likebox
@Anonymous
Not according to the government. The INS says that a naturalized citizen, a native born citizen and a natural born citizen are three different things. See:
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2012/01/25/the-current-ins-officially-recognizes-a-delineation-between-natural-born-and-native-born/#wpl-likebox
Quote from Charlene:
"•Mr. LEE of New York. Madam Speaker, I rise today to recognize Williamsville, New York resident Olivia Patricia Thomas, who recently became the oldest living naturalborn United States citizen ."
If both her parents were U.S. citizens when she was born it defines NBC. If not, and because this was done in 2009, it is another attempt to interchange native born and natural born, either intentionally, or through ignorance.
@Anonymous
It sound like they are trying to squeeze the media out. Afterall they don't want any witnesses present.
To anonymous 8:52
native born means born jus soli only
native means natural born citizen
naturalized means by statutes (oath or born-citizen, doesn't matter it's just governed by statutes)
natural born citizen means 2 US Citizen parents born on US soil
Natural Born Citizen is exactly what a statutory naturalized citizen is not.
2 US Citizen parents born on US soil
native-born is a US Code 1401 section 1 jus-soli only "if born subject to jurisdiction" (obots love to remove that part)
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“As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.” - Elijah Parish Lovejoy(1802-1837)
I am forced to moderate the comments at this site due to the Obama defenders constant porn spam and threatening comments.