HAS THE COLD CASE POSSE'S INVESTIGATION BEEN DELAYED?
dean@birthersummit.org
202.241.3648
Posted: February 08, 2012
© 2012 The Birther Summit
An Editorial
Following an August 18 meeting with members of the Surprise, AZ Tea Party, Sheriff Joe Arpaio announced that he had assigned an investigation into the presidential eligibility of Barack Obama to the privately-funded Cold Case Posse. Five of its most qualified investigators were tasked with leading the investigative work, and have been doing so in compliance with the highest standards of law enforcement investigation practices.
At the start of the process, it was estimated that their results would be released sometime after the first of the year; but, what should be understood is that law enforcement investigations simply take as long as they take. There is no way to predict exactly how long the compiling and processing of evidence will last, as leads tend to create additional leads, and they all take time to process properly.
Having communicated numerous times with sources very close to the investigation, I feel compelled to share some information from my perspective, as one who is not prohibited from commenting, since I am not a part of the actual investigation. Because of some misinformation that has been disseminated, I believe that Sheriff Joe and the Cold Case Posse deserve these clarifications of the record, as they are the only controlling legal authority that has stepped up to the plate for us in these matters. Out of gratitude for their willingness to offer their professional law enforcement experience, I believe it is important for the country to know the truth before the March 1st press conference.
As most people are likely aware, during a law enforcement investigation, those who are conducting it cannot reveal any of the evidence they are examining, as doing so can often hamper the investigation itself. However, there has been a concerted effort by someone playing the role of an attorney (very poorly, I might add) to either hijack or sabotage this investigation, as was evidenced by her mailing an unenforceable, downloaded “subpoena” form from Georgia's OSAH website. This was an attempt to “force” Sheriff Joe into prematurely revealing the products of his investigation, which, thankfully, was seen as the ignoble and ignorable act that it was. It was an attempted hijacking.
Being unsuccessful in hijacking the investigation, the next step was, predictably, sabotage. Very recently, she posted this statement on her website: I HOPE ARPAIO IS NOT USING HIS INVESTIGATION OF OBAMA AS A BARGAINING CHIP WITH THE FEDS. THIS WOULD EXPLAIN THE DELAYS.
Before proceeding, I want to explain something important, as this is crucial to understanding what is repeatedly happening to our initiatives. Orly Taitz seems to display a need to attach herself to every possible aspect of our movement in a tireless effort to remain the self-exalted face of it. When she is hampered in her quests to hijack what others are trying to accomplish (to try to claim their efforts as her own), she will inevitably do all she can to sabotage them.
We've seen this behavior exhibited countless times in her derisive attacks and libelous claims of those within our movement, such as her recent absurd assertion that Mara Zebest and Tom Harrison were “totally worthless,” and “their opinion is of no value,” when both had declined to participate in the joke that was her hearing in Atlanta (what she still erroneously refers to as a “trial”). Since Zebest and Harrison denied her the opportunity to hijack their professional opinions about their own analyses, they had to be decimated and discredited, for such a denial might tip others off to Orly's incompetence (as if Orly doesn't do enough of that on her own). Claiming others' work as her own is an effort to systematically exalt herself above everybody else in the movement.
This was also demonstrated in Taitz's involvement in the Georgia Ballot Challenge hearings. The basis of the first two hearings had been underway long before she ever injected herself into the proceedings; and, once she did, the other two lawyers did everything they could to separate their cases from hers—and even symbolically left the courtroom before her “case” was heard. Even Judge Malihi's findings made it clear that he perceived Taitz's case much differently than he did those of Irion and Hatfield; and it was evident that he wanted to publicize that understanding. However, it has been reported that Taitz was the “lead attorney in the cases” and was “responsible for the cases being heard.” Those were demonstrable lies.
Where Sheriff Joe fits into this picture is that, what he has done, and is doing, is something that is significant, and according to sources very close to the investigation, Orly has repeatedly tried to hijack his efforts; and there is no other reasonable explanation than her wanting to be able to claim those efforts as her own. Each of her attempts to weasel into the investigation has been shut down by the Cold Case Posse.
Well, all except one.
On October 25, 2011, there was a joint meeting of the Sun City West, AZ and Surprise, AZ Tea Parties at which there was a presentation scheduled by Sheriff Joe Arpaio. While I am told there was great vigilance in making sure the presentation did not get hijacked, those involved in that lookout detail were informed shortly before the meeting that Orly Taitz was flying in, and had arranged for her own videographer. Obviously, someone within the organization had leaked the information, and what ensued, once Sheriff Joe opened the door to questions from the audience, was an obvious attempt at the aforementioned hijacking.
We all need to understand that Sheriff Joe Arpaio has been in law enforcement for 51 years, and he doesn't need any help from Orly Taitz to conduct an investigation. Of course, the only help that Orly offers any initiative within our movement is the same kind of “help” that the late Dr. Jack Kevorkian offered the elderly. There is no person or organization that has poisoned our efforts more than Orly Taitz has.
Recently, Orly posted this on her website:
CONTINUED HERE: http://www.birthersummit.org/news/85-has-the-cold-case-posses-investigation-been-delayed.html
ARTICLE II ELIGIBILITY FACTS HERE: http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html
144 comments:
No, it has not been delayed, why do you ask?
you sound like a nutcase instead of a coldcase. The "invitation only" is to keep the obama teabaggers out.
@Anonymous
Duh!
Read the article!
As one of those who has defended Orly for as much as I reasonably could, Dean has given me second thoughts through his sobering analysis. It does now seem that Orly is a loose cannon who would hurt the movement more than help it. I have to agree with Sheriff Joe for wanted to ensure that the revelation of the Cold Case Posse's findings do not devolve into a circus because otherwise it will be bad enough that an irrational backlash from the drooling and Kool-Aid-impaired Obots will result if the findings do not go their way.
Dean mentions that the venue for the press conference has been changed to a small one. Is there any chance that BirtherSummit or ORYR might stream the press conference, like the Atlanta hearing was?
Mr Haskins, You have got to be kidding.
While there does seem to be a lot of infighting and competition over who is going to get credit for exposing Obama. You can rest assured that as far as Judge Malihi is concerned there isn't a dimes worth of difference between you and Orly Taitz.
Judge Malihi didn't even bother to seperate the three different challenges to Obama's eligibilty when he handed down his decision.
As far as the Status Quo is concerned, anyone who dares to question Obama's eligibilty is a crazy conspiracy theorist who deserves to be treated as an object of their derision.
Don't kid yourself into believing that you somehow seem more sane or competent to them.
And stop trying to scapegoat Orly Taitz for your own pathetic failure. We are all in the same boat my friends.
@Mashman
It was the Article 2 Pac and Vattelevision that provided the stream of the Georgia hearing.
I think it prudent that the venue be smaller and by invitation only. This is important for the safety of Joe and his posse. Live streaming video is excellent as there needs to be a record of proceedings.
Vattelevision is the parent company of The Birther Summit.
And no, I'm not kidding. LOL!
I believe all the attorneys involved are trying to prevent Obama serving another unconstitutional term. It is a clash of personality types, the overwrought versus the staid. I wish both sides in this dispute would tone down their rhetoric, but the principal burden must fall on the staid, because the overwrought cannot bear much.
BRAVO !!!!
I don't speak often but for the simple fact that Orly has never sought procedural assistance when it was obviously needed,I believe everything Dean has said. Orly is either a narcissist or purposely sabotaging the cases. JMHO
the pathetic article says it takes as long as it takes and asks the question, wuzzit delayed? duh!
Leave Orly alone asshole
Sheriff Joe MUST (I said MUST) send Personal invites to this "close-knit" press conference to 1) Roger Ailes of Fox News 2) Sean Hannity 3)Bill (I'm NOT really "looking out for you" ) O'Bigmouth 3) and the Presidents of ABC, CBS, NBC and Savannah Guthrie (from the WH Press Corp) She was personally selected to view the infamous BC on 4/27/11. There may be others-- but these lackeys are a MUST INVITE -- Get it on record that they refused to attend and then destroy their shows and their ratings. They ALL LIED to us. Fork emALL.
"Leave Orly alone asshole"
I think it is about time you ask yourself this. If something is as important as this issue wouldn't you use every available resource and tool available to make sure it is done right? If you are honest you would answer in the affirmative. So it must be asked by all of us including you. Why doesn't Orly make sure she has it right.
Dean,
Clearly Obama has very powerful people working the scenes behind him. The took over this government and the first thing they did was steal $870 billion in "bailout" money. If they are smart enough to do that, why don't you think they are smart enough to find a sold out lawyer to botch all the eligibility cases that they knew were coming? Something else about Taitz, she acts much in the same way as Obama - fearlessly - like someone has her back at all times. To me that is just another tell tale sign that she is an Obot. If she is it explains everything.
And this Sheriff Joe, I'm not so sure I trust him either. The drug trade flourishes in Arizona...if he's so great, why is that? What if he turns out to be just like Trump, builds builds builds up only to unload a bunch of "definitive" evidence that actually is favorable to Obama? This movement would be destroyed overnight. Again, think like Obama - he needs creditability here...is there a better way to get it?
Dean:
It looks like that it is ***you *** who try to hijack the project.
Please
(1) List on your website all the tasks that you have accomplished in this project.
(2) Open the posts on your website to comments.
I thought this was about important inside info on the cold case posse investigation. Instead its another attempt to slam a honest attorney who tirelessly works to unmask what she was the first to rightly described as a usurper. I do not think the author of this piece of crap could carry her tampon!
The Georgia case was sabotaged by Van Irion. He introduced the fake birth Certificate into evidence, accepting it as real.
Malihi used this document to "Consider" that Obama was born in Hawaii.
As bad as Orly is, she presented a much better case than the other two. Without the Van Irion BC, Malihi would have had a much harder time ruling as he did.
No matter how many times you read it, Minor vs. Happersett simply states "those born of parents who are citizens are NBC". That statement does not excludes other possibilities as it does not say that "ONLY those born of parents who are citizend are NBC".
Anon @ 5:31
Seems I've seen you posting quite a bit on the dentist's page.
There is much on our website. How 'bout you listing what you've done (other than press keys on a keyboard)?
And, why don't you start with posting under something other than "Anonymous"?
Anon @ 5:42--what, about "details of an investigation cannot be released until the investigation is completed," do you just not understand? And, if you truly believe what you just wrote about the dentist, then you are either immoral or ignorant.
rush limbaugh needs to get a personal invite also . he just as much or more because he is larger deserves to have his radio show destroyed if he does not attend . he has been a traitor to the birther movement .
Dean, are you ever going to tell us where this summit is and who is participating? Is Phil Berg back on the bill now that you and Orly are at war?
Anon@5:59
The ballot challenge was entirely about the NBC requirement--Orly came into the game very late, and it was wholly inappropriate in light of what the real attorneys were trying to accomplish. And, Orly did not present a "case," but a "skit," but you obviously do not know the difference.
@bn
I hope its not the case, but the "shocker" from Sheriff Joe could come in the form of the BC being legit somehow and they will still not show a BC.
5:42 PM is correct, and then some. My favorite is the sheriff. He's been hiding under the bed since Aug. And now comes Haskins. Both idiots. I'm a little surprised at Cali birther/ dualer/ doubter. You should know better. For one thing, there is obviously no cold case posse or report. For that matter, there is no sheriff or investigation. They are all lying. They're looking for an out. They are cowards.
@Dealio
Is that you Orly?
Oh my bad, can't be her you can spell.
Dean, seriously, I can recommend some hotels in Prince William County that might have some meeting rooms available at the end of March for when you and whoever have your working conference?
Or can you just cut to the chase and cancel the damn thing now and save yourself the embarrassment?
Mr. Haskins,
Thank you for the clarifying information. Although I appreciate Attorney Taitz's interest, work and enthusiastic efforts over the Constitutional issue of Obama's phony "presidency," I have always felt uncomfortable accessing Orly Taitz's website. I heartily disagree with the website's captioned description: "World's Leading Obama Eligibility Challenge Web Site."
Mr. Haskins, I think you are justified in addressing some of your concerns regarding Dr. Taitz's involvement in the whole eligibility issue of Obama. Keep up the good work!
Once Joe Arpaio has collected the requisite number of signatures on his petitions for reelection -- that's when he will finally announce what the Cold Case Posse concluded. Joe doesn't want to alienate those Maricopa County tea partiers.
Dealio said,
"obviously no cold case posse or report"
That is news to my ears!
"Sheriff Joe sets D-Day on Obama's eligibility"
http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/d-day-set-for-sheriff-joe-on-obama-eligibility/
Someone please get a screenshot of Dealio at 6:21, and then show it to him on March 1. Until then, Dealio, I would suggest working on obtaining that third digit in your IQ.
@Anonymous
I agree with you fully,
these Johnny come lately attorneys crack me up.
Not only have they been trying to steal Orly's thunder, they have gone out of their way to invalidate her and to undermine her efforts to succeed.
Sure they may have a slightly better courtroom demeanor, but Orly Taitz has a much better case.
I think they suffer from some type of superiority complex, which based on results, at least thus far, seems wholly undeserved.
In addition to being arrogant pricks, they have made a huge tactical error. They decided to stipulate to the totally unsubstanited claim that Obama was born in the USA.
How dumb can you get? Why would you stipulate to anything that has never been proven?
Dealio,
The Sheriff is waiting until after black history month is over.
Show some respect.
@Anonymous
FYI, English is not Orly's first language.
Yet somehow she managed to become both a dentist and a lawyer.
What have you done with your life?
Dan,
I never heard of you until today. You seem to be nothing but a thin skinned asshole, totally obessessed with Orly. No matter how you like to spin it, the fact is that your "real" attorneys fucked-up the case in Georgia by introducing the fake BC into the record as real. Without that BC Mahili ruling would have been different.
Also, this is not YOUR movement.
Anon 5:59
Funny how the only eligibility attorney attacking supporters and other eligibility attorneys is Orly Taitz.
I just want to say: If Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961, his "original" B.C. would be BLACK with WHITE LETTERING--known as a "photostat copy" (Exactly like the Nordyke twins' "original" B.C.)! There's NO WAY AROUND THAT FACT. And, there is NO WAY that you can get the same kind of "quality" out of a "photostat copy", like the one that Obama released on April 27th! There's just TOO MANY IMPERFECTIONS in a photostat copy, to come out with a document looking like the one Obama released to the public! I've worked with photostat copies and they just "aren't pretty" when you "reverse" the black background to a white background during copying!
Orly's motive is to leave a historical legacy-a leader of the second revolutionary war.
She can never be POTUS, like WASHINGTON so she wants to be a SENATOR.
In order to known AND ELECTABLE, she needs a cause célèbre.
Not too difficult to analyze.
Dean, contact Alan Dershowitz, as previously advised.
He will overshadow her in every way.
MAKE THINGS HAPPEN OR STOP THE BULLYING.
VERY IMMATURE.
@Dean Haskins
You can't blame Dealio for being a little skeptical bout Arpaio.
Afterall, it's been one sucker punch after another.
First, we had the Lakin trail, followed by an astonishing verdict.
Then we had Gov. Jan Brewer totally betray us.
Shortly after that Donald Trump let us down big time, when he decided to accept a fogery at face value.
And finally we have Judge Malihi and Brian Kemp give us the brush off.
Why should anyone trust Arpaio?
Seeing is believing my friend.
I'm from Missouri, THE SHOW ME STATE!
As a former active duty legal clerk who worked for JAG officers back in the day of IBM Selectric typewriters, and when multiple copies were made with carbon paper: All court documents (actually all documents, period)had to be error-free. Not one single word could be misspelled or misplaced. One single typo meant starting all over again regardless of how far down on the document you had typed. No white-out or white-ribbon erasures allowed. Prior to trial, with exacting standards, every administrative and procedural step was followed to a tee. To this day I remember the time I made a big blunder and the sitting judge delayed the trial so something I prepared could be re-typed and re-submitted. Embarrassment galore!
I don't get this Orly business. I just don't. Never have. Never will. Long ago she should have solicited the help of an expert clerk. In today's economy she probably could have hired someone dedicated to the cause for minimum wage -- someone to help her with presentation, court etiquette, navigating our system, etc. It's puzzling why she persisted in filing sub-par work product, and moreover, failed to heed the advice of so many who offered constructive criticism.
I'm inclined to give Mr. Haskins a nod here. I think he is being forthright with his criticism. Something ain't right here, and it's not him.
"Yet somehow she managed to become both a dentist and a lawyer."
She somehow has a license to practice law. She is as far from being a lawyer as one can possibly be.
"
Sure they may have a slightly better courtroom demeanor, but Orly Taitz has a much better case."
That is where you are completely wrong. Orly has no case, none. Not one thing she tried to present in GA is relevant to whether Obama is eligible to the office of president.
And in a real courtroom, where the rules of evidence and procedure are observed, not one of her witnesses nor any of her documents would have seen the light of day.
And by her actions in the courtroom, it is blatantly clear that had she had a "valid" document, she would not have been able to authenticate it or get it admitted.
@Yankee Sojourner
Orly's vocation is that of a dentist, her avocation is to try cases of great significance in her spare time.
If she appears harried, it could be that she has spread herself too thin. Afterall, she is trying to be a wife, a mother, a dentist, and a lawyer.
This might account for her less than perfect work product. It also might explain why she does not have the time to hire a legal coach.
Also, please recall that english is not Orly's native tounge.
The point is, nobody is perfect, we all have our strenths and weaknesses.
Lighten up a little, it makes you look like a bully.
Let's not pit one against another, 'Dean', isn't that playing into the hand of Obots and their agenda?
Sure Orly is trying to be within the top of anything that brings down Obama and his cohorts, but do not forget she has been slaving on this crazy shit for 3 years, she's battle weary and knows victory is within sight now, Obama's fucking up, there are chinks in his armor!
Give her a break, she's on the right side Dean.
@Anonymous
Your "more competent lawyers" have gotten the exact same results asshole.
A little humility might be in order.
"Lighten up a little, it makes you look like a bully."
If it's important enough to attempt, it's important enough to do it right. Period.
@Yankee Sojourner You're absolutely right. Court documents are supposed to be "perfect" and beyond reproach or it reflects badly on the Attorney. I tried to tell her this when she had a hand-written court document on her website but she chose to ignore the advice. Hell I would have filled out her documents for free, if she had just asked for help. And yes I have worked for an attorney so I'm an excellent typist and very detailed oriented. I also can spell.
I also agree that Mr. Haskins has a point. Anyone that steps back and looks at the facts objectively without emotion can see that something's remiss here. I won't go so far as to say she's a sabotour...yet.
John Doe Sr., Are you serious and where did you hear that?
"If it's important enough to attempt, it's important enough to do it right."
So how come you haven't done it right?
Your "more competent lawyers" got the same brush off Orly got.
How come?
"So how come you haven't done it right?"
I'm not a lawyer, but you don't have to be anything but a human to know... If a job is worth doing, it's worth doing right.
Dealio,
Didn't hear it, just considered it could be a possibility as to why the release date is in March. I was kidding....sort of.
I am not positive, but I believe at the beginning of the investigation Joe said the report would be released in February....or March. I don't think he is stalling, but I too would like the report, whatever it is, released now.......three more weeks will seem like an eternity.
I don't think Orly is a sabotour, I just think she is someone who likes to shoot from the hip.
Others are more methodical or orthodox in their methods. She is a bit of a sloppy street fighter. But there is a method to her madness, bank on it.
I am sure Orly will get more polish as she continues to learn from trial and error.
Perhaps instead of bulling and criticising her you could offer your assistance?
PS. please forgive my typing and grammatical errors I am a dyslexic.
Imagine you have "shocking" evidence and expert witnesses who can testify to fraud, forgery, identity theft, bribery, extortion,etc. against Obama and others who conspired to aid him in usurping the office of president. Do you hold a big public event to release your investigative findings? No. Do you hold a small, exclusive press event to announce what your group of detectives have discovered? No. Do you answer questions about how the investigation is going even from those who asked you to undertake it? No. If you have anything substantial which could be used to bring criminal charges, you turn it over to prosecutors. To do anything else would divulge evidence sources, endanger potential witnesses along with your case, open yourself and your investigation to ridicule (not to mention the misinterpretations and disinformation which usually accompany the grandstanding, zealously competitive efforts of those who believe THEY are the most important figures challenging the eligibility or criminal deceptions of Obama/Soetoro/whatever)...giving it more of a circus environment rather than a credible law enforcement investigation. Unless the big announcement is that there is no big announcement.....should there be one at all? I believe that Obama is a treasonous fraud and I hope that this investigation reveals at least some of what he has paid so much to hide. But in all honesty, is this how anyone would or should proceed if they have evidence of wrongdoing? I don't think so.
Shawny
@Anonymous
"I am sure Orly will get more polish as she continues to learn from trial and error."
We are going on 4 years of Orly incompetence. How much longer should we give her.
"you could offer your assistance?"
She has been offered it countless times and she refuses it.
Well, I'm glad to find that I'm not the only one who appreciates Orly's efforts. Thank you all who have come to her defense.
With all due respect to Mr. Haskins, Without Orly Sir, we simply would'nt exist. The Only thing you and all these "Real Lawyers" are doing, is STANDING ON HER SHOULDERS.
Now I'm sure you dissagree, and that's OK. I have read your comments thourouly and frankly, to me they sound like HIT PIECES. So to each his own I guess. But I'll tell you what, Take a good look at who's in your corner. I guarrantee RIKKI agrees with you. They just love you over at FAGGBLOW. And you HAVE been succesfull at dividing the movement.
So go ahead and continue to do what you feel you must do. I can't speak for anyone else. But you lost MY trust the moment you started to rip into Orly with that whole FAKE SUBPOENA B.S. "I" no longer trust you Sir. Or anyone else that NEEDLESLY rips Orly.
While I hope and pray that he will actually do something. Orly is absolutely correct about old Joe. Give me a break! How long does it take to run someone through E Verify. What else do you need Joe..?! How long did it take to arrest the idiot that made the threats..? I guess we have all day here..! I'ts not like we're going on 4 YRS. worth of USURPATION or nothing..!
Commykiller
@Anonymous
Well at least Orly continues to draw attention to the issue of Obama's eligibility.
She might not have been able to prove that Obama is a fraud but we all know it.
In the end it will be Obama's undoing.
He will screw up.
I'm sure of it.
Yes, we're going on 4 years of Orly fails.
cold case posse aint found shit...I think all of these assholes work for Obama, taitz, arpaio, all of them...
@Anonymous
We're also going on 4 years of Orly trying, where others with more legal experience who say they have a better way gave up or never tried, where others who ridicule her tried and got exactly the same results. They have all failed, not just Orly. And all have been ridiculed who take up the mantle, not just Orly. What she has done that others have not is consistantly making the effort all that time and keeping the issue alive. The ballot challenge may at some point succeed but to anyone watching so far, it's a big fail in multiple states undertaken by a group of well-intentioned amateurs. Still, I greatly appreciate the gutsy efforts of anyone actively trying on our behalf instead of just lobbing insults from the sidelines about what's being done wrong. It appears those with the courage have also been plagued with an arrogance that keeps them from working together to get the job done. Unfortunately, those who would like to quash all those efforts don't have that problem.
Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse does not needed to be involved in a case involving the issue of what is the legal definition of Natural Born Citizen. The law school graduate and licensed but inexperienced attorney’s fumbling has been focused on the issue of whether Hawaii officials have conspired to flimflam the public by saying that they have documentation on file about Obama’s birth without at the same saying that the photo shopped White House posted document is a “true copy of the document” that is “on file” in Hawaii. Orly’s inexperienced fumbling of the “true copy” issue did not cause Georgia to reject the NBC legal definition issue. Orly’s failure (due to inexperience) to properly prove the photo shop document case is not an excuse for Georgia Officials failing to now investigate the possibility of whether the White House has “issued forged document in Georgia” by posting a photo shopped document on a federal Government website. One does not have to forge a document in order to be guilty of “issuing” a forged document. Hopefully, Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse is investigating the possibility of a “issuing of a forged document” crime. In addition, hopefully, Attorney Hatfield will continue to appeal (based on Supreme Court case precedent) the NBC legal definition case through the Georgia Appellate Courts.
I believe it was Ronald Reagan commented something about no limit to what can be achieved if no one cares who gets the credit.
Lets focus on exposing this fraudulent usurper and worry about the credit once he is in handcuffs.
DEAN, Stop egging on and scapegoating Orly. HERE IS THE REAL REASON WHY SHE CAN'T GET TO SECOND BASE.
MAYBE YOU SHOULD GET YOUR LAW LICENSE AND PASS THE BAR AND ENTER EACH STATE PRO HAC VICIE WITH A RECOMMENDATION AND APPLICATION FROM YOUR HOME STATE.
THOU DOTH PROTEST TOO MUCH!!
1. Jerry Corsi outlines the judge's motives in his decision. THERE WILL BE NO DECISION IN ANY COURT FAVORING THE PLAINTIFF BECAUSE OF OBAMA GOONS. GET THAT THRU YOUR NOGGINS!
CORSI SAYS THE ONLY ONE BRAVE ENOUGH IS ARPAIO.
HE BETTER HAVE SECURITY UNTIL MARCH 1, FOR SURE.
HERE IS THE CORSI "UNDOCUMENTED PRESIDENT" INTERVIEW:
http://www.khow.com/player/?station=KHOW-AM&program_name=podcast&program_id=fullshow_boyles.xml&mid=21793027
2. TEA PARTY ENDORSES ARPAIO:
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2012/02/08/20120208arpaio-supporters-gather-signatures.html#ixzz1lrKo3mSh
Arpaio received "100,000 petition signatures from a “tea party” organization Wednesday afternoon supporting Arpaio’s investigation of President Barack Obama and denouncing the U.S. Department of Justice’s civil-rights investigation of Arpaio".
Between Minor which says NBC is 2 US Citizen parents born on US soil
and the fact that an Article I US Citizen is different from an Article II natural born citizen
it DOES rule out any other permutation
than 2 US Citizen parents, child born on US soil
MAIN STREAM MEDIA HAS AWAKENED!!
CALLS FOR RESIGNATION!!!
THE DOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR THE GOP CANDIDATES TO PRESS OBAMA TO COME CLEAN.
A VERY BRAVE VIRGINIA ATTORNEY WROTE IN AMERICAN THINKER:
THE OBAMA CHALLENGES: A CRISIS IN CONFIDENCE
2-09-12
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/02/the_obama_ballot_challenges_a_crisis_of_confidence.html
"Even at the most fundamental level, doubt remains as to whether the man occupying the White House is constitutionally eligible for the job.
There are two factors causing lingering doubts. The first is based upon Obama's secrecy in refusing to release relevant records for inspection and authentication. The second is that the Supreme Court needs to rule on the application of the Constitution's requirement, "natural born citizen," with respect to Barack Hussein Obama II.....
Public Policy Polling revealed that 51% of Republican primary voters have doubts over the venue of Obama's birth..
If Obama is not willing to be completely transparent, THEN HE SHOULD STEP DOWN...
The Constitution's presidential eligibility clause remains intact and unmolested by any controlling precedent.
An undisputed fact is that Obama was not born into the status of having a natural, undivided allegiance to the United States...
Orly has tried hard, kept the issue alive and done her best.
But a wise person knows when to butt out and let others take over.
Orly I think its time.
Of course this is a, pardon my French, p*ssing contest.
Because every figurehead in the "birther" movement thinks that once the usurper is ousted, he/she will become the next President because the people will obviously reward "the one who brought down the house of cards".
And that's why people on both sides cannot agree to work together. Though I think Orly overdoes it, remember she's the only one with open political ambitions.
> But you lost MY trust the moment you started to rip into Orly with that whole FAKE SUBPOENA B.S.
Well, you cannot have love for Orly and Sheriff Joe at the same time, it seems. Because Sheriff Joe told Orly to put her "subpoena" where the sun don't shine. He didn't even bother moving to quash it (as Obama had to because his attorney was properly served in GA).
So either Orly is wrong with her "subpoenas" or Sheriff Joe is wrong with telling Orly "I ain't followin' that". Can't have it both ways.
All you obots love to do is hate our Constitution...YOU ARE NOTHING BUT GLOBALISTS!!
http://www.infowars.com/freedom-hating-globalists-continue-attack-on-constitution-and-liberty/
"Over the last few years, they have engaged in a concerted attack on our founding documents and time-honored ideals. On Tuesday, the New York Times continued this trend with an article on the front page of its print edition.
Entitled ‘We the People’ Lose Appeal With People Around the World, the article by Adam Liptak argues that the Constitution is outdated, inflexible and no longer trendy. It cites an article published in June in The New York University Law Review that explains how America’s Constitution is “losing its appeal as a model for constitutional drafters elsewhere” as statists, bureaucrats and autocrats turn to examples presented by more malleable documents such as the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and those produced by India, South Africa, New Zealand and the United Nations.
The problem, Liptak notes, is that “rights guaranteed by the American Constitution are parsimonious by international standards, and they are frozen in amber.” In other words, the “problem” with the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence is that the rights enumerated there are not open for interpretation and cannot be changed by government.
But what really irks the elite is the idea that government only exists by the consent of the governed and “whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends [of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness], it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,” as the Declaration of Independence states. In other words, it is the right of the people to revolt against government – preferably through peaceful means, but by violent revolution if need be, as Thomas Jefferson argued – when it becomes an oppressive tyranny, as it now is.
The very idea that the people have the right to abolish government scares the hell out of the ruling elite. The Second Amendment is under persistent attack not because guns are a danger to school children, but because guns and people well trained in their proper use are often required to resist and overthrow government tyranny. Control freaks never surrender power willingly.
The establishment is now openly assaulting the Constitution and the very idea of innate and god-given individual rights going back to the Magna Carta, the Habeas Corpus Act, the Petition of Right and English common law. The Constitution and the Declaration of Independence encapsulate and enumerate into law liberties that are the birthright of humanity. Government is not required to bestow them as the New York Times would have use believe. We are born with them despite trendiness or the dictates of commissars at the United Nations."
IS IT ANY WONDER WHY THIS NATION IS IN THE CRAP IT'S IN?!?!
@Anonymous
'God does not call the qualified, he qualifies the called.'
There are countless top drawer lawyers in this country with impeccable credentials. Almost all of them have turned a blind eye the usurpers ineligibility. Some prestigious law firms have even aided and abetted him.
Orly has not only not turned a blind eye, she has been leading the charge against Obama since day one.
How about a little respect?
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/02/the_obama_ballot_challenges_a_crisis_of_confidence.html
HeyAnon,
Thanks for this link, this is a very good article. Where is Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Glenn Beck and all the rest of the self proclaimed flag waving Constitutionalists, that can't seem to find utter the words "natural born citizen", in that same Constitution? All we expect out of these people is an intelligent, fair airing of the facts - just like this article.
Don't you guys understand by now that Orly is Obama's best friend in all this?
Orly Taitz is an Israeli spy
Orly has accomplished more in her 3 years regarding the "USURPER" than you folks have. I sense some "Professional Jealousy" from your childish sensitivity. If you can't take the heat stay in the "Out House"
@Commiekiller
^5 DITTO 5^
Note that he just did a HIT PIECE on Sharon Rondeau (The Post & Email) as well.
Divide and conquer that is Obamas weapon and it seems to be working on the Birther movement.Reading these comments it seems everyone does not trust anyone.United we stand divided we fall.
"MAIN STREAM MEDIA HAS AWAKENED!!
CALLS FOR RESIGNATION!!!"
And you think American Thinker is main stream media WHY???
i'm debating fogbow on the 21st
washingtonamerica.com
> MAIN STREAM MEDIA HAS AWAKENED!!
CALLS FOR RESIGNATION!!!
"Amerikanthinker" isn't "main stream media" any more than Orly Taitz' blog is.
Hey Birther Report,
Whose side are you on? Obama's?
Dr. Orly Taitz invited Sheriff Joe to Testify
in Georgia. He declined!
Dr. Taitz is puting her Career, Saving, Dental Practice and her life on the Line fighting
The Illegal Alien Communist Obama.
What are you doing criticing her?
You sit in your Mothers Basement in your
Under wear spouting your lies!
Grow Up!
ANYONE WITH AN OUNCE OF BRAINS KNOWS AFRICAN IS NOT A RACE USED FOR B/C'S IN THIS COUNTRY THE CORRECT TERM USED IN 1960 WOULD BE NEGRO BUT A LIBERAL WHOS FORGING A B/C FOR OBAMA WOULD USE THE P/C TERM AFRICAN. SORRY FOLKS AFRICAN IS NOT A RACE BUT A CONTINENT. AND LOTS OF WHITES BORN IN AFRICA WOULDN'T BE CALLED AFRICAN NOW WOULD THEY THE B/C IS AN OBVIOUS FAKE. TRY LOOKING AT THE LIST OF TERMS USED FOR ALL BIRTH CERTIFICATES IN THIS NATION AFRICAN IS NOT ON THAT LIST.
First of all, Sheriff Arpaio has been "well aware" of the Obama "issue" since day one [2008]! He avoided it.
Finally, after a local Tea Party group
put some pressure on him, he decided to look into the matter. First, he said he would release "findings" at the beginning of the year. Then, he said, the second week in February. Now,
its March 01. Can we expect more delays? As far as Orly is concerned, she has been in it from the beginning.
Orly, along with "every" other attorney, has recieved the "same" corrupt treatment from the Judges.
Hakins,
Orly called you a P.O.S. and for good reason. You have some sort of rabid animosity toward her for what reason? She has done all the legal work and dug up all the facts against Obama while all you do is yak, yak, yak. How many actions have you filed? How many facts have you dug up? Maybe the fact that she as a woman is putting you and others like you to shame is why you constantly attacke her.
@Anonymous
I hope she's better at dentistry than she is at "lawyering."
@Anonymous
Ronald Reagan also said the following, which suggests to me that Reagan would be all for Taitz hiring someone to proofread, edit and type out her work for her.
"Surround yourself with the best people you can find, delegate authority, and don't interfere as long as the policy you've decided upon is being carried out."
One doesn't have to be as great as Reagan or smarter than Donald Duck to know that, rather than making excuses, the smart thing to do would be to accept one of the many offers of assistance instead of presenting documents full of mistakes to the courts and the judges who preside over them.
Taitz is a spoiler.
The importance that noone mentions is the divisor of seventeen. All of the issues regarding eligibility can be divided by seventeen. This has not happened since biblical times.
@Anonymous
Your reasons why Taitz will never succeed may be right but can you explain why she insists on making a fool of herself and, unfortunately, the entire movement by her courtroom antics, lack of professionalism, stupid mistakes and attempts to attach herself to the efforts of all others? ("Orly Taints" better suits her.)
@Anonymous
[ Hey Birther Report,
Whose side are you on? Obama's? ]
The truths side.
[ Dr. Orly Taitz invited Sheriff Joe to Testify
in Georgia. He declined! ]
No. Dr. Taitz "issued" Sheriff Joe a subpoena that is only valid within the State of Georgia. Sheriff Joe's attorney correctly pointed that out in their response to Dr. Taitz.
[ Dr. Taitz is puting her Career, Saving, Dental Practice and her life on the Line fighting
The Illegal Alien Communist Obama.
What are you doing criticing her? ]
Is this not the United States of America where one has Freedom of Speech and the right to criticize questionable behavior?
[ You sit in your Mothers Basement in your
Under wear spouting your lies!
Grow Up! ]
Please point out one "lie" "spouted" about Dr. Taitz at this site.
You cannot.
@Anonymous
[ He didn't even bother moving to quash it ]
Sheriff Joe did not have to bother filing any motions to quash it as it was not valid outside the State of Georgia.
[ as Obama had to because his attorney was properly served in GA) ]
That is because Obama's personal attorney lives and resides in the State of Georgia where only the OSAH subpoena was valid.
@genericprofile9000
This is libel without proof.
@genericprofile9000
Why do you slander Orly Taitz?
@Anonymous
"Orly has accomplished more in her 3 years regarding the "USURPER" than you folks have."
List those accomplishments, please.
I recall way early on, conflict between Taitz and Berg, now there is conflict amongst all. Why don't you Taitz supporters simply urge her to let people who possess the professional skills she lacks help her. The only possible victory will be one that is carried out to perfection and let's face it, perfect is not a word that associates itself easily to Taitz.
@Anonymous
"God does not call the qualified, he qualifies the called."
He should teach her to spell, too.
@right turn
"Divide and conquer that is Obamas weapon and it seems to be working on the Birther movement."
Causing division is what a spoiler does. Spoilers cause division and confusion.
I would say that I hate to break to you folks, but that is not true, I enjoy breaking it to you folks, that Sheriff Joe's posse is going to end up saying that, despite their best efforts, they could not find any concrete evidence to establish that President Obama was not born in Hawaii in 1961.
Too bad, so sad.
Once again: Orly Taitz passed the Bar exam. She knows how to do things right. That she does things wrong isn't incompetence, fatigue, learning-curve, or any of the other excuses. She does things wrong in order to guarantee her cases will lose.
You want Obama re-elected? Send money to Orly Taitz. It's you she's working for.
"Once again: Orly Taitz passed the Bar exam. She knows how to do things right."
There is no correlation between passing the bar and knowing how to practice law. Pretty much all one knows after passing the bar is how to pass the bar. Learning to practice law takes time and mentoring by experienced attorneys.
What's amazing about Orly is that she's learned absolutely nothing since she began her filing of her string of lawsuits. She makes the exact same mistakes of procedure and law, very simple ones, now as she did when she began filing these suits, and then adds to that list of mistakes with every case with new ones when something new is required.
Quit picking on Dr. Taitz.
How many law suits against Obama have you filed?
Sitting in your Mothers Basement in your Underware , Critiquing Dr. Taitz does not
make you a Patriot!
Makes you an asshole!
Bet you do not have the guts to publish this,
@Anonymous
Attacking the messenger will not change the facts.
Dean Haskins is attacking Orly Taitz to distract everyone from the fact that he has made no progress at all in producing "The Birther Summit". Where will it be held? Who are the speakers? What is the exact timeline and location for the march? Where is the permit? What are the suggested travel and accommodation plans? All hat, no cattle. Note that he did respond to others on this page but avoided answering any questions about The Birther Summit. He collected money and took a vacation in Hawaii with Miki Booth. He came back with nothing. Soon it will be clear to all that The Birther Summit is a shell game. Unless Dean Haskins can keep us all looking away and at Orly Taitz instead.
We all ought to now realize once and for all that we are alone. All controlling authority has betrayed us, the country, and what is left of the free world. After what had occurred in Georgia, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that even a few obots could now start seeing something is terribly amiss. All of us are in for the fight of our lives. All of them in Washington must be arrested and tried.
Taitz can be commended for her diligence but criticized on process and style. There are often procedural or clerical errors in her pleadings, and her appearance is distracting. She does not come across as professional, and that makes her counter-productive unfortunately.
Attacking Orly Taitz will not change the facts either.
If the "cold Case Posse" has any real evidence, why are they sitting on it?
HMMMMM?
So it is okay for Orly to attack other folks in the eligibility movement and noone has problem with that but soon as someone points out her flaws it is not okay?
Am I getting that right?
Sounds pretty hypocritical to me.
"Critiquing Dr. Taitz does not make you a Patriot!"
Obots do indeed consider themselves Patriots. At this point, she's getting more support from them than from Conservatives.
"What's amazing about Orly is that she's learned absolutely nothing since she began her filing of her string of lawsuits. She makes the exact same mistakes"
Nope. She makes the exact same mistakes not because she hasn't learned, but because she HAS learned - how to guarantee a lawsuit will lose. If A, B and C lost her case last time, she'll make sure to do A, B and C again next time. It's her job.
@Anonymous
"If the "cold Case Posse" has any real evidence, why are they sitting on it?"
The following is the first sentence of the fourth paragraph of the blog post to which we are posting. Seems simple enough to understand as it's written, so I'm at a loss as to how it could be dummied down for those of you who still don't understand it, evidenced by your repeatedly asking why none of the findings have yet been released.
As most people are likely aware, during a law enforcement investigation, those who are conducting it cannot reveal any of the evidence they are examining, as doing so can often hamper the investigation itself.
I have a question for Dean Haskins.
What is the difference between a hearing and a trial?
The simpler your answer, the better for me.
Thanks.
@Anonymous
"Obots do indeed consider themselves Patriots. At this point, she's getting more support from them than from Conservatives."
It's getting harder all of the time to tell Obots from Taitz' followers, what with their serial postings of identical remarks, their repeatedly asking the same questions, and their commenting on posts they've obviously not read. Maybe posting comments on the 'Net posed as Orlyites is how Fogblowers are trained.
In a trial, evidence is presented to ascertain whether an entity is guilty of doing something wrong--either civilly or criminally. If a guilty verdict is rendered, the guilty party receives some sort of punishment.
A hearing weighs a procedural matter--which is why there are often multiple hearings that occur before a trial.
In this type of hearing, which was an administrative hearing, disputes about procedural issues get settled by an administrative law judge.
This was just a ballot challenge, which was about whether the ballot commission should rightfully include Obama on Georgia's ballot (is he constitutionally eligible?). The administrative law judge could only make a decision about the procedure of the ballot process; he could not even consider matters of the law as they apply to crimes such as forgery and fraud--which is why the third hearing (even if it were argued competently, which it wasn't) was completely out of place in that setting.
Additionally, regarding subpoenas, as I have tried to explain, per Georgia law, subpoenas issued for a Georgia court are only enforceable within the State of Georgia. To subpoena an individual from another state, the Georgia court would have to provide an attorney with a commission or a letter rogatory, which would then have to be taken up with a court in which the individual resides, and that court would have to issue the subpoena.
Just to bolster how lowly an administrative court actually is, Malihi does not even have the power to enforce a subpoena that was issued within the State of Georgia. For enforcement of a subpoena, it would have to be sent up to Superior Court, and that court would have to decide whether or not to enforce it.
Gulag Preface: We continue to monitor the pursuit of truth regarding Barack Obama’s alleged ineligibility per the “natural born Citizen” requirement for the Presidency of the U.S.A., as an element of the larger investigation into his life and liaisons.
As we ponder the coordinated assault upon sovereign America, of which players such as Barack Obama and George Soros are a part, were have gained from those who study Marxist revolutionaries in action, such large scale saboteurs are infamous for inserting lesser saboteurs and the lemming leadership of controlled opposition tactics into the ranks of their resistance.
Readers of the blog Investigating Obama, (recently laden, Google tells us, with malware pointing to a Russian domain, but with no exact solution presented at last observation) active 2008-2010, may be aware of my personal concerns about Orly Taitz in this regard.
It is not our task here, to chronicle a record of her recent career, nor however many instances of her elbowing her way to the front of many eligibility challenges, only to falsely file, withhold critical information, disparage others in the movement, and to draw attention to herself in a way which makes her a straw man for ridiculing the entire effort. (Such a stratagem could be called first with the worst.) We have largely moved on to other subjects.
Further, one must be careful in the airing of such suspicions, lest it create a chilling effect upon our mutual efforts, even divisiveness and mutual suspicion among esteemed compatriots. But the time to mutually evaluate the modus operandi of Dr. Taitz is, in my opinion, long overdue. It is perplexing how one of such apparently high intelligence and talent, so as to assume so many leadership roles, could be so mistake prone as she.
Arlen Williams
Coordinating Publisher, Gulag Bound
http://gulagbound.com/26027/interference-in-sheriff-arpaios-obama-investigation-orly-taitz-a-saboteur
I don't know if Taitz is a double agent, but I know someone who probably is- Donald Trump.
@Dean HaskinsThanks for clearing up the difference between a trail and the hearing Dean, and for also explaining what the judge could and couldn't rule on. Makes sense to me.
Before I saw the video of Orly's work at the hearing, I was a fan of hers. Not any more. From on what I saw, Orly is very disorganized brain-wise. Also, she need to work on the way she speaks, too many "ums" and other distractions. Plus, she talked like she was uncomfortable and unsure of hrself. Gues her hearts in the right place, but she's not up to the task IMO.
@Dean Haskins
Thank you, Dean Haskins, for the clarification.
WND EXCLUSIVE
Why wasn't Obama in contempt of court?
http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/why-wasnt-obama-in-contempt-of-court/
Barack Hussein Obama is really Bari Malik Shabazz, the illegitimate son of Malcom X. Bari was chosen to lead the Islamic Revolution in the United States, and is the first Mullah of the American Caliphate and the son of the Great Islamic Prophet Malcom X. His reign coincides with the Arab Spring in Egypt and Libya, both of which has been orchestrated by the Muslim Brotherhood, of which Bari is the Chosen One, their crowned prince.
The MB is also Bari’s personal Muslim Army here in the American Caliphate. They are doing all of the backdoor and behind-the scenes intimidation of anyone who question the Prophet Bari. They are also probably being funded by the giant slush fund called the Stimulus. Do you remember Bari’s call for a citizen army? Any Mullah/Prophet needs an army to enforce Islamic law sometime in the future.
The Prophet is already acting like a Mullah, handing out edicts (aka Fatwahs) on a near daily basis. Soon it will all be done in the name of Allah, if not already.
The United States has been taken over from within using a master plan that was developed 50 years ago. Welcome to the Great American Caliphate— and the great Prophet Bari…
Orly Taitz has spoken out in support of suspended Indiana Secretary of State Charlie White, following White’s conviction on six felony counts of voter fraud, perjury, and theft of public funds.
Speaking on her website, Taitz stated that White was thrown out of office “on a technicality”, apparently referring to White’s removal from office after a jury of Indiana citizens returned the six guilty verdicts.
Special Prosecutor John Dowd presented the jury with more than 60 exhibits, including White’s voting records, a lease on his condominium, employee records, telephone records and evidence concerning cell tower connectivity to prove that White lied about his place of residence in order to continue collecting a salary from the town council district he was elected to serve.
Taitz’ support of the beleaguered White is peculiar in more ways than one. In 2010, Taitz unsuccessfully sought the Republican nomination for California Secretary of State in the June primary. Before the primary votes were certified, Taitz brought a legal action to halt the count, asserting that her opponent, Damon Dunn, a black real estate developer, had made false statements on his declaration of candidacy. Taitz alleged that Dunn had committed fraud by omitting his prior voter registration as a Democrat in Florida but the case was dismissed and is now on appeal by Taitz. While Taitz claims that Dunn’s alleged omissions should have barred him from the office of Secretary of State in California, she is not nearly as protective of the citizens of Indiana. There, a public official who receives a salary under false pretenses is qualified to serve – despite the opinion of a citizen jury.
Taitz often claims to be a crusader against public corruption and voter fraud, but when offered an opportunity to applaud efforts to clean up our public offices, she merely uses the event to further her own political jihad against President Obama. As usual, she stops for a sound bite and then spits out her own chewed up analysis: “If they removed Charlie White, they should remove Obama too”.
If you are a black man seeking office or in office then Orly Taitz is very concerned that you might be committing voter fraud. She would like to see you arrested and the sooner the better. But if you are a white Republican in the Midwest convicted on multiple felony counts by a jury presented with overwhelming evidence? Orly Taitz has got your back.
-It does now seem that Orly is a loose cannon who would hurt the movement more than help it.
There would be no Movement without Orly. Orly IS the Movement.
-Why doesn't Orly make sure she has it right.
Why does'nt someone else do it..?
-I believe everything Dean has said.
I believe you.
-she acts much in the same way as Obama - fearlessly
Obviously, and undesirable quality in a leader. It's how we we know she's an Obot.
-why don't you think they are smart enough to find a sold out lawyer to botch all the eligibility cases that they knew were coming?
Orly does'nt just botch her own cases she also botches the "real lawyers cases". Like when the idiot Irion introduced a FAKE cert into evidence. This of course was also Orlys fault and part of their "GRAND DESIGN"
-Orly came into the game very late, and it was wholly inappropriate in light of what the real attorneys were trying to accomplish
They did howhever accomplish to introduce a FAKE cert.
-Orly did not present a "case," but a "skit
The fake cert, the stolen SS# and the fraud SSR,of course have no bearing on eligibility.
-Mr. Haskins, I think you are justified in addressing some of your concerns regarding Dr. Taitz's involvement in the whole eligibility issue of Obama. Keep up the good work!
Yes, fantastic work, you have single handedly managed to divide the ENTIRE movement. The FAGGBLOWERS are having a FIELD DAY..!
-Dealio, I would suggest working on obtaining that third digit in your IQ.
Dealio's IQ is high enough to recognize a TRUE Patriot when he sees one.
-Oh my bad, can't be her you can spell.
But at least she brushes her teeth. How about you..?
-Funny how the only eligibility attorney attacking supporters and other eligibility attorneys is Orly Taitz.
The CONSTANT SLANDER by those outside and now within her own camp, the very people she is trying to help, are of course of no consequence.
-I don't get this Orly business. I just don't. Never have. Never will. Long ago she should have solicited the help of an expert clerk. In today's economy she probably could have hired someone dedicated to the cause for minimum wage -- someone to help her with presentation, court etiquette, navigating our system, etc. It's puzzling why she persisted in filing sub-par work product, and moreover, failed to heed the advice of so many who offered constructive criticism.
Personaly, I don't have the balls to do shit. But I could teach Orly a thing or two.
-She is as far from being a lawyer as one can possibly be.
And yet she's the BEST we got. The door remains WIDE OPEN for anyone else that want's to give it a shot. Don't see too many takers. Do you..?
-Orly has no case, none. Not one thing she tried to present in GA is relevant to whether Obama is eligible to the office of president.
Fraud BC, Fraud SS#, Fraud SSR, none of these things affect eligibility.
-You're absolutely right. Court documents are supposed to be "perfect" and beyond reproach or it reflects badly on the Attorney. I tried to tell her this when she had a hand-written court document on her website but she chose to ignore the advice. Hell I would have filled out her documents for free, if she had just asked for help. And yes I have worked for an attorney so I'm an excellent typist and very detailed oriented. I also can spell.
Again, I have no balls, but I'll run Orly's show. For free mind you!
-We are going on 4 years of Orly incompetence. How much longer should we give her.
"you could offer your assistance?"
She has been offered it countless times and she refuses it.
Why haven't you filed YOUR OWN case..?!
-Yes, we're going on 4 years of Orly fails.
What have the REAL LAWYERS ben doing for 4 yrs..?!
-Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse does not needed to be involved in a case involving the issue of what is the legal definition of Natural Born Citizen.
Perhaps, But the opportunity to present whatever he has in front of a JUDGE, was missed. THAT opportunity has taken almost an ENTIRE term of Usurpation to aquire. Let's pray that he gets it again. I woul'nt hold my breath though. "HUGE FU$% UP" if you ask me.
-Orly has tried hard, kept the issue alive and done her best.
But a wise person knows when to butt out and let others take over.
Orly I think its time.
If and when this happens. We're done. All you'll have left is guys like Berg, Kreep, Irion, ect. and of course ole Dean here. Now pushing on with a ORLY-LESS Birther Summit. By the way, Good luck with that. Now that you've gutted Orly out of it. I know at least a couple folks that won't be attending.
-Note that he just did a HIT PIECE on Sharon Rondeau (The Post & Email) as well.
Saw that too Jim. Read like "WAR AND PEACE"! It felt like I was having tooth drilled..!
-So either Orly is wrong with her "subpoenas" or Sheriff Joe is wrong with telling Orly "I ain't followin' that". Can't have it both ways.
Orly sent Joe a subpoena only to make it EASY for him to present his shit (whatever it may be) in front of a JUDGE. She thought (as many of us do) it was inportant. And she figured he would welcome the oportunity. Joe did'nt. (She explained this on her site) The question is; Why did'nt he jump on it...?! I gess Joe knows best.
-Orly has not only not turned a blind eye, she has been leading the charge against Obama since day one.
100% on the money!
And she has done so, IN SPITE of the fact that she can't lawyer, spell, speak, write,
organize, prepare, present or argue the case..! (According to Dean, Rikki, BN, most here and on FAGGBLOW) And that is why I respect and admire her. She has taken no less than 50 count them 50 flights, promoting the cause. Filed countless cases and done countless interviews. All over the entire world, not just here in the states. All the time running a full dental practice, being a wife and mother to 3 (Who have also recieved death threats by the way) and she has done it all on HER DIME (she accepts donations but it comes out of HER pocket first and foremost. Many here have gone as far as to criticise her for accepting donations because she IS financialy succesfull so, "How dare she?!" "Her house is worth so much" and all this bullshit) and yet, guys like Dean and Bn here, tell us SHE'S the problem..!
-First of all, Sheriff Arpaio has been "well aware" of the Obama "issue" since day one [2008]! He avoided it.
Finally, after a local Tea Party group
put some pressure on him, he decided to look into the matter
BINGO..! DING DING DING..! HE'S NOT ONE OF US..! HE'S NOT A BIRTHER..! he's doing it because he's been asked (practically begged) to. He refuses to ASSOSIATE himself with us CRAZY BIRTHERS..! And I hope I'm wrong about that.
-I hope she's better at dentistry than she is at "lawyering."
She is. This is her true vocation. She's also a Black Belt in Tae Kuon Do. And she would much rather do that, but then who would take it to the Serpent..? Berg..? Irion..? Good luck whith that.
-One doesn't have to be as great as Reagan or smarter than Donald Duck to know that, rather than making excuses, the smart thing to do would be to accept one of the many offers of assistance instead of presenting documents full of mistakes to the courts and the judges who preside over them.
If you know so much; FILE YOUR OWN CASE..! Sometime tonight would be fine.
-All of us are in for the fight of our lives. All of them in Washington must be arrested and tried.
On the money.
-Taitz can be commended for her diligence but criticized on process and style. There are often procedural or clerical errors in her pleadings, and her appearance is distracting. She does not come across as professional, and that makes her counter-productive unfortunately.
Only if you are cynical. Again Everyone is free to file their own case. We have been under Usurpation for almost 4 yrs. now. The Republic is all but destroyed. WHERE ARE THE "REAL LAWYERS"..?
-So it is okay for Orly to attack other folks in the eligibility movement and noone has problem with that but soon as someone points out her flaws it is not okay?
I have yet to see Orly attack anybody. She's too busy DEFENDING herself.
-Nope. She makes the exact same mistakes not because she hasn't learned, but because she HAS learned - how to guarantee a lawsuit will lose. If A, B and C lost her case last time, she'll make sure to do A, B and C again next time. It's her job.
Un Freaking believable. Not worth the time
-But the time to mutually evaluate the modus operandi of Dr. Taitz is, in my opinion, long overdue. It is perplexing how one of such apparently high intelligence and talent, so as to assume so many leadership roles, could be so mistake prone as she.
Yeah, that's what we need to do. Let's all forget about YOMAMA and go after Orly. Let's start a collection and hire some of these "Real Laywers" and legaly pursue HER instead..!
Much thanks to all the REAL PATRIOTS who have come OUT OF THE WOODWORK in Orlys defense. Way to grab your guns and hold your ground guys.
WITHOUT ORLY THERE IS NO BIRTHER MOVEMENT..!
LONG LIVE THE QUEEN..!
Commykiller you're a delusional idiot. It is irrational people like you that make the Constitutionalists movement look like a bunch of loons.
Taitz and her supporters (Obots) will do whatever it takes to make the Constitutionalists look like a bunch of loons so NOBODY will take the eligibility issue seriously. Unfortunately, they're succeeding.
"Commykiller you're a delusional idiot. It is irrational people like you that make the Constitutionalists movement look like a bunch of loons.
February 9, 2012 9:46 PM"
Actually Commykiller is 100% correct.
Orly has done an Outstanding job, yours and others name calling and casting blame gets no where.
What some fail to see is the increasing number of people waking up to the information Orly has made easily available.
Denials by the courts on all of these/your cases only makes Americans dig deeper into the why and who of the reasons.
How many now know what Natural Born Citizen stands for, have read or picked up a copy of the Constitution, now know backgrounds of most involved?
Those numbers increase every day.
I for one will continue to believe in Orly and any others following the Constitution and the Rule Of Law.
Sheriff Joe's team will soon release what they have, a date has been set.
The media is getting cracks, let's see what falls out.
9:46 PM, What constitutionalist movement? Whose the leader? When and where are they challenging Soetoro next? What are they doing now? Bottom line- unless a nationwide call goes out for all patriots to form ranks and converge on the capitol, we will continue to lose until we all are enslaved, imprisoned, or dead. We must come to terms with what we're facing. We have no choice. This is no longer about Soetoro usurping the office of President. This is about all or nothing. This is it. We must unite and save our country from total ruination.
I'll believe it when I see it. Why did Joe wait so long to even start an investigation?
And lay off of Orly. She's more of an American, and more interested in seeing the Constitution followed than many others out there, and was on this case from DAY ONE.
It's not Dr. Taitz's fault that some bizarre conspiracy is in place, a conspiracy that runs from one end of the country to the other, to the highest courts in the land. We need to thank her for her service, and hope that all of her hard work will result in Obama being prosecuted.
Commykiller: I appreceate what you wrote. You're write about how important Orly has been for this movement. No one can take that away. But the video doesn't lie--in the courtroom she's comes off confused and not on top of things. She needs to let lawyers with more experience guide her or talk for her.
@Commykiller,
"If and when this [Orly Taitz quitting] happens. We're done. All you'll have left is guys like Berg, Kreep, Irion, ect. and of course ole Dean here. Now pushing on with a ORLY-LESS Birther Summit. By the way, Good luck with that. Now that you've gutted Orly out of it. I know at least a couple folks that won't be attending."
Indeed. And now that Dean has also publically vilified Sharon Rondeau, along with having gutted Orly Taitz out of his "BIRTHER SUMMIT", I also know at least a couple, in my case actually a couple handsfull, of folks who won't be attending anymore -- one of whom is a very well known and respected leader/spokesperson of the eligibility movement.
I still invite any of you brilliant "supporters" here to refute anything I've stated. Now, remember, I've pointed out the lying, the begging for money based on those lies, the incompetence, and the attacks on others in our movement. These things are all typically regarded as morally/ethically questionable at best.
So, go ahead and refute the facts that I have shared--with facts, not with half-witted condemnations of me. And, since I have pointed out the truth in these matters, and you still appear to give your blind support, then it necessarily calls into question either your own morality, or your intelligence.
@racerjim
"Indeed. And now that Dean has also publically vilified Sharon Rondeau, along with having gutted Orly Taitz out of his "BIRTHER SUMMIT", I also know at least a couple, in my case actually a couple handsfull, of folks who won't be attending anymore -- one of whom is a very well known and respected leader/spokesperson of the eligibility movement."
I knew you people were stupid. And I knew the depths of stupidity that you would plumb. First of all, only a handful of people were going to show up ANYWAY. You mistakenly believe that the birther movement comprises thousands when, in truth, your largest gathering can be described in the tens.
Second, Dean has slapped you people with a dose of much needed reality. Orly, while persistent, is an assclown of a lawyer. Even the birthers were laughing at her performance in Atlanta. If she didn't exist, Obama would have to invent her.
The fact that you attack Dean for wanting to get to the bottom of this mess is telling. I suspect that if Dean actually saw Obama's vault BC, he'd let go of this thing. Whereas the rest of you postulate idiot theories about Obame being the son of Malcolm X, not realizing that such a theory would make Obama the son of TWO NATURAL BORN AMERICAN CITIZENS.
You shoot yourselves in the foot at every turn.
And your motives are so thin it's easy to see what your REAL concern is...and it's NOT the Constitution.
I am most interested in knowing if Arapaio has information regarding Bari Shabazz and the HAWAII AUTO ACCIDENT.
That would be the most "shocking" information that could be presented.
Almost everything else is known, (by the birthers), but that is NOT common knowledge.
In fact, further investigation of the Shabazz/auto accident seems like the only justification for it taking so long.
A simple demand for further examination of the original BC-microfilm/fiche and availablility other records could have been done in 15 minutes.
Re Taitz: People are finally saying "The Empress Has No Clothes" and that's never a popular position (to put it mildly) until more people wake up. It takes courage to speak the truth when it's unpopular. The important thing is that people ARE waking up.
Don't forget for a moment how hard Taitz has been working to involve the United Nations in her activities.
Of course she and her followers will welcome United Nations forces into our courtrooms and polling places. They will proclaim victory when the United Nations decides the outcome of elections and judicial proceedings in the United States of America.
When that day comes they won't be able to hide behind their "Conservative" disguises any longer. But when that day comes, they won't need to.
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If the Cold Case Posse doesn't get an indictment by a Grand Jury against Obama for fraud, they will have failed. No fancy press conference can change that.
I hope the Cold Case Posse has found all of this as it is an extremely well documented article of many lies and Obama's family's Marxist associations and history.
The web of deceit around this man is beyond comprehension.
http://mcauleysworld.wordpress.com/2008/10/28/barack-obama-the-unauthorized-biography-obamas-factual-family-story/
So many lies in this family
http://www.boston.com/news/education/higher/articles/2011/04/29/elder_obama_denied_harvard_phd/?page=full
Quote from Obot:
"Whereas the rest of you postulate idiot theories about Obame being the son of Malcolm X, not realizing that such a theory would make Obama the son of TWO NATURAL BORN AMERICAN CITIZENS."
Uh, I think they do realize that could be the case, do you realize that if Obama/Barry/Bari whoever lied about who he is that would not be "OK"?
Rikker, No offense, but you have got to be pretty fucked up if you believe a vault bc exists from Hawaii.
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"observer said:
February 12, 2012 at 10:27 am
I would assume that most of this has been revealed elsewhere but perhaps not comprehensively in such a report:
http://socialismisnottheanswer.wordpress.com/2012/02/10/vital-records-indicate-obama-not-born-in-hawaii-hospital-part-1/#more-7065
VITAL RECORDS INDICATE OBAMA NOT BORN IN HAWAII HOSPITAL (PART 1)
Posted on February 10, 2012
The Daily Pen
This is part one of a three part story which will present evidence discovered within the vital records archives of the United States, Great Britain and the Prefecture of Hiroshima, Japan which shows that Barack Obama exploited the municipality of Hawaii and U.S. Vital Statistics reporting methods in order to counterfeit birth records in a criminal attempt to deceive the American people and fraudulently usurp the power of the U.S. Presidency.
snip……As this report will show, the proof of Obama’s fraudulence resides in the domain of publicly accessible records which show that the birth registration procedures, federal vital statistics reporting methods and organizational structure of the Hawaiian municipality expose these contradictions and reveal that Obama’s Hawaiian birth is a fabrication of modern administrative processes and that his actual natal biography has been actively and intentionally obscured by present-day governmental officials."
@bn
There have been plenty of attorneys, who have filed lawsuits and not one of them have won. Why just pick on Orly as a failure and accuse her of misconduct? Who is the malicious one here?
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